Comments on: The Banana Man and his trained monkey go too far… http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/09/23/the-banana-man-and-his-trained-monkey-go-too-far/ THIS BLOG IS NO LONGER ACTIVE. We've retired this blog, but the GifS gang is now active at Atheist Oasis (atheistoasis.wordpress.com). Visit us there! Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:44:32 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ChuckA http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/09/23/the-banana-man-and-his-trained-monkey-go-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-430416 ChuckA Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:21:36 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=7041#comment-430416 After scanning through the incredible collection of bullshit in that, humongously long, introduction...ending, of course, with that typical, and amazingly stupid, preachy notion that only the Bible..."D'uh!"...contains the true account of the 'creation' of the Universe...AND...the typical, lame-ass, "born-again" prayer...truly IS, IMO, a "barf-in-your-mouth moment". It reminds me of that rather well known story regarding Francis Collins (who WAS referred to in that intro), immediately after seeing a frozen waterfall, sort of falling on his knees (at least mentally?) proclaiming something like: "Yes, there IS a god, and Jeebus died for our sins...and...and...like the Babble says...after you die you either go to an endless, voyeuristic, and mindbogglingly tyrannical "Heaven" where you'll spend all your time in endless praising of the one true Divine psychopathic monster...OR...to a totally out-of-whack, completely unjust, ENDLESS punishment in a Hell originally designed for "God's" favorite naughty boy, and angelic buddy, Satan...all that...just for being born so fucking dumb and ignorant as to not believe all the incredibly insane mythological bullshit! Thank you, thank you, Jeebus!" [OK..'he' took some poetic, interpretive license?] Now, if I...just happened to have been there (hiking by?)...I would probably, tentatively, have said to him, something like: "Now go sell everything you own...is it...erm...Francis?...just as Jeebus said, TWICE, in the gospels...and that means EVERYTHING...even your hiking boots and...erm...underwear (& jock strap?), and then, give ALL the money...YES, ALL of it... to the poor. Also...start hating your parents, your wife, etc...and of course, additionally...you must...(wait for it?): "Eat Jeebus...AND...drink his blood!" (and that ain't all?)." :Shock: Yeah...you guys know the insane New Testicle drill..? If, perchance, you've forgotten... I suggest you make a devout (albeit atheistic) visit to...erm... http://godisimaginary.com/video1.htm After all that shit; I need an antacid! After scanning through the incredible collection of bullshit in that, humongously long, introduction…ending, of course, with that typical, and amazingly stupid, preachy notion that only the Bible…”D’uh!”…contains the true account of the ‘creation’ of the Universe…AND…the typical, lame-ass, “born-again” prayer…truly IS, IMO, a “barf-in-your-mouth moment”.

It reminds me of that rather well known story regarding Francis Collins (who WAS referred to in that intro), immediately after seeing a frozen waterfall, sort of falling on his knees (at least mentally?) proclaiming something like:
“Yes, there IS a god, and Jeebus died for our sins…and…and…like the Babble says…after you die you either go to an endless, voyeuristic, and mindbogglingly tyrannical “Heaven” where you’ll spend all your time in endless praising of the one true Divine psychopathic monster…OR…to a totally out-of-whack, completely unjust, ENDLESS punishment in a Hell originally designed for “God’s” favorite naughty boy, and angelic buddy, Satan…all that…just for being born so fucking dumb and ignorant as to not believe all the incredibly insane mythological bullshit!
Thank you, thank you, Jeebus!”
[OK..'he' took some poetic, interpretive license?]

Now, if I…just happened to have been there (hiking by?)…I would probably, tentatively, have said to him, something like:
“Now go sell everything you own…is it…erm…Francis?…just as Jeebus said, TWICE, in the gospels…and that means EVERYTHING…even your hiking boots and…erm…underwear (& jock strap?), and then, give ALL the money…YES, ALL of it… to the poor. Also…start hating your parents, your wife, etc…and of course, additionally…you must…(wait for it?):
“Eat Jeebus…AND…drink his blood!” (and that ain’t all?).”
:Shock:

Yeah…you guys know the insane New Testicle drill..? If, perchance, you’ve forgotten…
I suggest you make a devout (albeit atheistic) visit to…erm…
http://godisimaginary.com/video1.htm

After all that shit; I need an antacid!

]]> By: Dave http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/09/23/the-banana-man-and-his-trained-monkey-go-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-430320 Dave Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:10:42 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=7041#comment-430320 I think I want to throw up now after watching that. However, I doubt someone in their right mind will try to logically use that "introduction" in an argument... "Oh, your claims are based on those writings? Who wrote that, by the way? Is that person an actual scientist or someone merely using the words of science? Are they also a scholarly historian and biographer with academic recognition?" Busted. :) I think I want to throw up now after watching that. However, I doubt someone in their right mind will try to logically use that “introduction” in an argument…

“Oh, your claims are based on those writings? Who wrote that, by the way? Is that person an actual scientist or someone merely using the words of science? Are they also a scholarly historian and biographer with academic recognition?”

Busted. :)

]]> By: Tommykey http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/09/23/the-banana-man-and-his-trained-monkey-go-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-430073 Tommykey Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:44:19 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=7041#comment-430073 <em>Empirical propositions are justified inductively. Our main error comes in when people wrongly believe inductive justifications are irrational because they are fallible. A secondary error is this goofy notion of theory-laden evidence, which confuses temporal considerations with those of an epistemic nature. A more innocuous error more common to those in academic culture creeps in when people sneerquote what Ryle called success words, such as know and confirm.</em> Now that's bizarre! Empirical propositions are justified inductively. Our main error comes in when people wrongly believe inductive justifications are irrational because they are fallible. A secondary error is this goofy notion of theory-laden evidence, which confuses temporal considerations with those of an epistemic nature. A more innocuous error more common to those in academic culture creeps in when people sneerquote what Ryle called success words, such as know and confirm.

Now that’s bizarre!

]]> By: ChuckA http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/09/23/the-banana-man-and-his-trained-monkey-go-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-428188 ChuckA Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:01:04 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=7041#comment-428188 Ummm...since Star's out of town (?)...and nobody seems to be around today... "YOO-HOO!?...ANYBODY?"...(cue echo effect?) OK...I guess it's OK to sneak this in?... Remember that old Xmas tune: "Good King Wenceslas"?... Yeah...Czech Republic''s patron Saint..."St. Wenceslas"; which, in the day, I never quite made that association. Like...I'm not Czech? Aside from that little musical reference, I DID, however, ALMOST join an American-Czech-majority-populated, Benedictine Monastery located in Lisle, Illinois, way back in 1964. Yeah...I was running away, totally disillusioned with the 'Woild'; after JFK's assassination. I soon, after just one semester, as a future monk-priest-prep student, recovered SOME sanity, and went back to my previous College-based agnosticism (and frequently inebriated & extremely sexually horny-hungry) ways. Yeah...LONG, convoluted story, of course! (like the rest of my fucking life!) What's that?.. "Get on with it, Chuck...skip all your usual uninteresting, tangential bullshit!"...? "Roit!"... Anyway, one of today's Yahoo News items MIGHT interest you guys; as it points out the rather big decline, since the Communist days, in any respect for the Poop, and, for that matter, ANY god belief. Of course, the RCC is trying, desperately, to retrieve it's former stance...and, more importantly(?)..religious property (read: very large Churches). 'snip' "...In 1991, 4.5 million of the country's 10 million people said they belonged to a church. In 2001, a census showed that number had plunged to 3.3 million. Recent surveys suggest the freewheeling drop continues. About one in two respondents to a poll conducted by the agency STEM said they don't believe in God. Another 28 percent said they considered themselves believers, and 24 percent were undecided. The poll had a margin of error of 2.5 percentage points. Moreover, the Czech Republic is one of the few nations in the world that has not ratified a standard treaty with the Vatican that spells out church-state relations. "Czechs are getting less religious every year," said Klara Kucerova, a resident of the southern city of Brno, where the pope will celebrate an open-air Mass on Sunday. "They are more interested in horoscopes or other kinds of magical predictions," she said. [HUH? Say what?...You mean...they've just switched their delusions?] ('snip continues'): "Underscoring the hostility toward the church, a group calling itself Condom Positive planned to distribute condoms bearing a likeness of the pope wearing one on his head and the words: "Papa said no! And you?" [Ooooh!...a really nifty, "totally swollen head" addition to the Poop's "Ministry of Silly Hats"?] "Another group, Condoms for the Pope, said it would inflate prophylactics to condemn Benedict's assertion earlier this year that condoms are not the answer to Africa's severe AIDS problem. The pope's position "clearly shows us that he is more interested in preserving dogma than saving the lives of African women, men and children," it said in a statement..." OK...for anyone remotely interested, here's the Yahoo article link: "Pope decries Czech communist-era persecution": http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090926/ap_on_re_eu/eu_czech_pope Ummm…since Star’s out of town (?)…and nobody seems to be around today…
“YOO-HOO!?…ANYBODY?”…(cue echo effect?)
OK…I guess it’s OK to sneak this in?…
Remember that old Xmas tune: “Good King Wenceslas”?…
Yeah…Czech Republic’’s patron Saint…”St. Wenceslas”; which, in the day, I never quite made that association. Like…I’m not Czech?
Aside from that little musical reference, I DID, however, ALMOST join an American-Czech-majority-populated, Benedictine Monastery located in Lisle, Illinois, way back in 1964. Yeah…I was running away, totally disillusioned with the ‘Woild’; after JFK’s assassination. I soon, after just one semester, as a future monk-priest-prep student, recovered SOME sanity, and went back to my previous College-based agnosticism (and frequently inebriated & extremely sexually horny-hungry) ways.
Yeah…LONG, convoluted story, of course! (like the rest of my fucking life!)
What’s that?..
“Get on with it, Chuck…skip all your usual uninteresting, tangential bullshit!”…?
“Roit!”…
Anyway, one of today’s Yahoo News items MIGHT interest you guys; as it points out the rather big decline, since the Communist days, in any respect for the Poop, and, for that matter, ANY god belief. Of course, the RCC is trying, desperately, to retrieve it’s former stance…and, more importantly(?)..religious property (read: very large Churches).

’snip’
“…In 1991, 4.5 million of the country’s 10 million people said they belonged to a church. In 2001, a census showed that number had plunged to 3.3 million.

Recent surveys suggest the freewheeling drop continues. About one in two respondents to a poll conducted by the agency STEM said they don’t believe in God. Another 28 percent said they considered themselves believers, and 24 percent were undecided. The poll had a margin of error of 2.5 percentage points.

Moreover, the Czech Republic is one of the few nations in the world that has not ratified a standard treaty with the Vatican that spells out church-state relations.

“Czechs are getting less religious every year,” said Klara Kucerova, a resident of the southern city of Brno, where the pope will celebrate an open-air Mass on Sunday.

“They are more interested in horoscopes or other kinds of magical predictions,” she said.

[HUH? Say what?...You mean...they've just switched their delusions?]

(’snip continues’):
“Underscoring the hostility toward the church, a group calling itself Condom Positive planned to distribute condoms bearing a likeness of the pope wearing one on his head and the words: “Papa said no! And you?”

[Ooooh!...a really nifty, "totally swollen head" addition to the Poop's "Ministry of Silly Hats"?]

“Another group, Condoms for the Pope, said it would inflate prophylactics to condemn Benedict’s assertion earlier this year that condoms are not the answer to Africa’s severe AIDS problem.

The pope’s position “clearly shows us that he is more interested in preserving dogma than saving the lives of African women, men and children,” it said in a statement…”

OK…for anyone remotely interested, here’s the Yahoo article link:
“Pope decries Czech communist-era persecution”:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090926/ap_on_re_eu/eu_czech_pope

]]> By: Greg Reich http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/09/23/the-banana-man-and-his-trained-monkey-go-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-428142 Greg Reich Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:51:43 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=7041#comment-428142 Ray Comfort wants the sort of attention you're encouraging here. He will never, ever listen to us, but he will play the victim. He will point out how atheists insult him and persecute him, as if he's not doing that to us. The best thing we could all do is ignore his blog and pay more attention to his actions in schools. I suspect the only people who will pay attention to him on campus will be the Campus Crusade for Christ, Fellowship of Christian Athletes, and other fundamentalist student organizations. That's how it was when I was in college--the fundies like him were relegated to the fringe, where they belong. Ray Comfort wants the sort of attention you’re encouraging here. He will never, ever listen to us, but he will play the victim. He will point out how atheists insult him and persecute him, as if he’s not doing that to us. The best thing we could all do is ignore his blog and pay more attention to his actions in schools.

I suspect the only people who will pay attention to him on campus will be the Campus Crusade for Christ, Fellowship of Christian Athletes, and other fundamentalist student organizations. That’s how it was when I was in college–the fundies like him were relegated to the fringe, where they belong.

]]> By: ChuckA http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/09/23/the-banana-man-and-his-trained-monkey-go-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-427944 ChuckA Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:28:50 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=7041#comment-427944 Whoa...Stardust?... Just an off the wall comment RE your travelling (if you still haven't left?); be sure to wash any of those hotel glasses you encounter...yourself. After hearing, quite awhile back, about the totally shoddy maintenance RE that aspect...ala "Strep" infection, etc...I, personally, wouldn't trust the "cleanliness"; no matter HOW famous the Hotel chain. One of my 50th reunion classmates, back in May 2007, died in the following Sept. due to an all invasive Strep infection. I don't think anyone knew where he actually contacted it; but he came into Chicago from Ohio...you get the picture. Not to be paranoid ("Say what?"; but even going to a hospital, these days, is somewhat dangerous RE that kind of shtick. Too many people don't wash their hands after a washroom visit, I'm guessing. What!..."EEOOooh!"? :shock: ? On that (disturbing) note...remember this story?: http://www.snotr.com/video/662 As to your bible project... "You go, gal!...heh, heh!" Whoa…Stardust?…
Just an off the wall comment RE your travelling (if you still haven’t left?); be sure to wash any of those hotel glasses you encounter…yourself. After hearing, quite awhile back, about the totally shoddy maintenance RE that aspect…ala “Strep” infection, etc…I, personally, wouldn’t trust the “cleanliness”; no matter HOW famous the Hotel chain.
One of my 50th reunion classmates, back in May 2007, died in the following Sept. due to an all invasive Strep infection.
I don’t think anyone knew where he actually contacted it; but he came into Chicago from Ohio…you get the picture.
Not to be paranoid (”Say what?”; but even going to a hospital, these days, is somewhat dangerous RE that kind of shtick. Too many people don’t wash their hands after a washroom visit, I’m guessing.
What!…”EEOOooh!”? :shock: ?
On that (disturbing) note…remember this story?:
http://www.snotr.com/video/662

As to your bible project…
“You go, gal!…heh, heh!”

]]> By: Stardust http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/09/23/the-banana-man-and-his-trained-monkey-go-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-427933 Stardust Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:33:47 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=7041#comment-427933 Free Thinker, we should call his bluff and do it. I am leaving for a trip today and when in hotels my husband and I are going to be making some "additions" to the bibles in the rooms. :twisted: Free Thinker, we should call his bluff and do it.

I am leaving for a trip today and when in hotels my husband and I are going to be making some “additions” to the bibles in the rooms. :twisted:

]]> By: The Free Thinker http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/09/23/the-banana-man-and-his-trained-monkey-go-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-427889 The Free Thinker Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:43:06 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=7041#comment-427889 I wrote Mr. Comfort about a month back when the story first broke. I was disgusted. He actually wrote back though. What an ass. I told him that I would donate every penny I have to any project seeking to release the bible with an introduction detailing how full of shit it was. His response "I dare you". What an asshat. I wrote Mr. Comfort about a month back when the story first broke. I was disgusted. He actually wrote back though. What an ass.

I told him that I would donate every penny I have to any project seeking to release the bible with an introduction detailing how full of shit it was.

His response “I dare you”. What an asshat.

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