Comments on: Allegories Gone Wild – Psychoactive Sacraments And The Mushroom Man

By: Fritzy

Fritzy — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:38:41 +0000

^^Hogram, I’m with you. Considering the abysmal record the bibble appears to demonstrate on other matters hystorical, and it being about the only source that makes reference to Christ, I tend towards the belief that there were a whole bunch of men around that time laying claim to the label “messiah” and a whole bunch of myths flying around, and a whole bunch of desire for a messiah. And that’s about it.

If the evidence isn’t there, he’s just another fictional legend.

By: Stardust

Stardust — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:12:45 +0000

Stardust, what is the book about Egyptian mythology?

It’s a book I found called
“Don’t Know Much About Mythology: Everything You Need to Know About the Greatest Stories in Human History but Never Learned”
by Kenneth C. Davis — HarperCollins (November 1, 2005)

While I have studied Mythology at the university I attended, and have read other books on my own, there were things in this book that I didn’t know. It’s very good, well-organized and full of interesting information.

By: ChuckA

ChuckA — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:44:49 +0000

OT…(or maybe not?)…something I posted (slighty revised) in a comment on Austin’s Site, related to a Bible oriented Post…which I thought youse guys might find relevant…

Similar to the old familiar anti-drug, advertising, image?…may I submit…
“This is your (metaphorical, of course!) brain on religion”:
http://www.meanmyspacegraphics.com/graphics/poop.jpg
Or, you may (or may not) prefer…
“This is your brain on Theology”?:
http://www.poopbegoneoftucson.com/good_dog.jpg
Your totally “free will” choice?

Am I being a tad harsh, perhaps?

By: hogarm

hogarm — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:06:21 +0000

OK, my 2 cents worth on Jesus as a flesh-and-blood human existing in history.
Several books I have read addressed this. The Encyclopedia of Biblical Errancy by C. Dennis McKinsey, The Jesus Mysteries by Freke and Gandy, an Acharya S book, maybe The Greatest Story ever Sold, or maybe Suns of God.
They all agree. Jesus the man is a mythological man, just as much as our Paul Bunyan is a mythological man. The christ, as a concept exists in history, the man Jesus the Christ does not.
There is a reference in Josephus the Jewish historian which all the above authors agree was added in the 5th century.
And even if there was this unwashed street preacher named Jesus, we know nothing about him. Every thing about him in the gospels is true about some other pagan god who preceded the pagan god Jesus. (Virgin birth, walking on water, raising from the dead, etc, etc.)
And there are all the events reported in the gospels that would have been recorded in history had they really happened. A star over Bethlehem, Herod slaughtering male babies under 2, the sun standing still at the crucifixion and the hundreds of dead that crawled out of their graves and walked the streets of Jerusalem, etc, etc.
Jesus didn’t replace the pagan gods, he evolved out of them.
Stardust, what is the book about Egyptian mythology?

By: ChuckA

ChuckA — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:40:21 +0000

KA?…(and anyone interested)…
Here’s the ‘Magic Mushroom’ related video I was trying to find.
I had the title wrong; it’s “Pharmacratic Inquisition”.
Here’s one full length ‘DVD’ edition (at Google videos):
“The Pharmacratic Inquisition DVD – Official Online Edition”
[Produced by - "Gnostic Media"...this page also has the full length "Zeitgeist" film link.]
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=825942553983229569&ei=gZy3Sq2RG5q2qwKBtbH3AQ&q=Pharmacratic+Inquisition&hl=en#

For the same ‘DVD’, split into 12 parts (on YouTube):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnvEHObMMH4

Interesting stuff, I think, for your possible consideration; as is, IMHO, “Zeitgeist”…whether even PARTIALLY true or not…
it’s always your ‘cherce’?
[Yeah...those good ole (often mind numbing?) Conspiracy Theories!
Hmmm....could it be, perhaps?:
"Nobody suspects the "PharmaCRAPic Inquisition"?
[cue (Pythonesque) brass: Triple forte, Bb augmented chord!]

By: KA

KA — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:29:50 +0000

Samantha:

As long as you dont tell me I must become an athiest and that nothing will happen when I die.

Well, you don’t have to become anything, as to the latter, there’s no proof that anything does happen when 1 is deceased.

I am a big believer in mutual respesct.

But not in spellcheckers, I see.
Well, I respect the individual’s right to believe in anything their little heart desires, but I also reserve the right to criticize (& sometimes utterly wreck) their beliefs. The opinion not being the person.

By: Samantha

Samantha — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:11:08 +0000

KA.
I can definetly respect that, fuzzy wuzzy feeling and truth does clash at bit. I definetly agree with the fact that many Christians have no idea where rituals come from. Some people really think that Jesus was born on the 25th of December, when really it was just a Pegan holiday. Most things in Christianity are based around Pagan Holidays and rituals because conversion was the church’s main focus and it is easier to convert when it rituals are comfortable and familiar. Another ex. is using the three leaf clover as a symbol for the Christian trinity when it began as a symbol for a three part Pegan Godess.

And no, I will never tell any of you you are going to hell, or that you must become a Christian. As long as you dont tell me I must become an athiest and that nothing will happen when I die. I am a big believer in mutual respesct.

By: KA

KA — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:39:46 +0000

Josephus’ work was proven to be a complete forgery,

Really? Do share.

and new evidence suggests that a monk examining the works of Suetonius literally changed some letters in the text so it would read “Christ” as a name.

As memory serves, Suetonius was famous for his use of hyperbole (read: he liked to exaggerate a lot).