Archive for July, 2009

God dicks with Job

14 July 2009 by Stardust

Job is one of the most sadistic stories of the Bible. Though Job is one of God’s greatest sheeple, God decides to dick with him anyway. Even though this god is supposed to be all-knowing and knows what Job will do in the future, God buddies up with previously banished Satan and still dicks with Job anyway to see if he will remain loyal when according to the Bible, god is supposed to know everything already.

Here is an amusing video that gives a summarized retelling of the Job fable.

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Feel the “Christian love”

14 July 2009 by Stardust

A militant Catholic enclave hurled gasoline bombs, fireworks and other makeshift weapons at police in Northern Ireland on Monday in an attempt to block a parade by the Orange Order, Northern Ireland’s major Protestant brotherhood.

Belfast Catholics riot over Protestant parade

Gerry Kelly, a minister in that 2-year-old coalition from the major Catholic-backed party Sinn Fein, said the dissidents were pursuing an “anti-peace process and sectarian agenda” that seeks to stoke tensions with the Protestant majority and torpedo power-sharing.

More than 1,000 Orangemen and their accompanying bandsmen eventually did march down the main road past Ardoyne to the beat of a lone drum — but only after riot police fought an hourlong street battle backed by a surveillance helicopter and three massive mobile water cannons.

At one point, masked Catholic rioters on store rooftops directed a deluge of Molotov cocktails, bricks and golf balls on riot police below. The officers were protected with flame-retardant suits, helmets and shields.

Later, as the water-cannon gunners sought to take rioters’ legs out from under them, Catholics wearing scarves over their faces took cover behind low brick walls and post boxes. They threw rocks, bricks, bottles and even planks of wood that bounced harmlessly off the armored sides and metal-grilled windows of the water-cannon vehicles.

The Ardoyne Catholics’ showdown with police continued long after the Orangemen had passed by.

Police said a gunman fired at least one live round at police lines but missed. Rioters also stole three vehicles, set them on fire — and pushed two of them toward police lines. Officers in reply fired at least 18 British-style plastic bullets. The blunt-nosed cylinders are designed to pummel rioters without penetrating flesh.

A senior Belfast policeman, Assistant Chief Constable Alistair Finlay, condemned the anti-Orange rioters as offering “the worst possible face of Northern Ireland — a face of bigotry, sectarianism and intolerance.”

This all seems like such childish feuding . . .

Northern Ireland’s “Twelfth” holiday typically raises community tensions to their highest point of the year as British Protestants celebrate centuries-old victories over Irish Catholics.

The often elderly, conservatively dressed Orangemen are accompanied by so-called “kick the pope” bands whose hard-faced, tattooed members play an odd mix of Gospel and sectarian tunes on shrill flutes and deafening drums.

Monday’s parades were preceded by a string of overnight attacks northwest of Belfast that damaged two Orange halls and two Protestant homes, one of them gutted by fire. Catholic youths cheered the blaze and jeered the home owners, a couple who vowed to leave behind their Catholic neighbors after 32 years.

Catholics daubed the Orange lodge in the village of Rasharkin with slogans praising IRA dissidents, then pelted Orangemen as they marched from the lodge. Two Protestants were hit in the head with rocks before police stepped in. Three officers were wounded as the Catholics threw several Molotov cocktails. One rioter was arrested.

Ahhh, just feel the love of Gawd.
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The Story of Suzie

13 July 2009 by Bob

That American Idol part just cracked me up…
(h/t to Pharyngula)

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Allegories Gone Wild – The Theology That Boasts Of Emptiness

12 July 2009 by KA

evolution

Nothin’ from nothin’ leaves nothin’
You gotta have somethin’
If you wanna be with me
Nothin’ from nothin’ leaves nothin’
You gotta have somethin’
If you wanna be with me – Billy Preston, Nothing From Nothing

Apparently, there’s a new rage in religious quarters. It’s called kenotic theology. Kenosis


is a Greek word for emptiness, which is used as a theological term. The ancient Greek word κένωσις kénōsis means an "emptying", from κενός kenós "empty". The word is mainly used, however, in a Christian theological context, for example Philippians 2:7, "Jesus made himself nothing (ἐκένωσε ekénōse) …" (NIV) or "…he emptied himself…" (NRSV), using the verb form κενόω kenóō "to empty". See also Strong’s G2758.

In Christian theology, Kenosis is the concept of the ’self-emptying’ of one’s own will and becoming entirely receptive to God and his perfect will. It is used both as an explanation of the Incarnation, and an indication of the nature of God’s activity and condescension. Mystical theologian John of the Cross‘ work "Dark Night of the Soul" is a particularly lucid explanation of God’s process of transforming the believer into the icon or "likeness of Christ".

Yes, it does sound like some form of a Zen koan, does it not? I’ve heard this in some variety or form over the last few decades: the ‘emptying’ of oneself, to become some sort of vessel for mystic forces, or in the Eastern tradition, that act of emptiness in order to achieve/receive some kind of spiritual insight.

In fact, it’s very much like the concept of zazen, or ‘opening the hand of thought’. However, the differential is that in Western thought, the act of ‘opening’ is the process of inviting something in, whereas in Eastern modalities, it’s the simple act of release.

On our side of the ocean, the act of actual quietude, that silencing of the internal dialogue, is viewed (usually) with some degree of doubt and/or horror, as if silence as well as stillness is indicative of non-existence or identity loss (which is quite silly: a quasar very active, perhaps noisy, while a growing tree is neither). As a Westerner, it provides a degree of difficulty for myself – the martial art I engage in seeks stillness in motion, a paradox not a contradiction. There are countless studies showing that meditation itself, that ‘emptying of the self’ is a huge reliever of stress (that holdover of the fight/flight impulse we’ve been struggling with for years), so I shan’t belabor that point.

But the Occidental mind always seems to need a prime mover, a direction – aghast at the concept of free-floating in freefall, even if only for a few minutes each day.  Ergo, insert Father Figure (this is some sort of weird reverse Oedipal Rex complex), who ‘fills’ the ‘vessel’.

What brings us to this? Why, evolutionary Christology. Basically, this is an effort to synchronize religion with evolution.  This excerpt is from The Examined Life On-Line Journal:

Did the pre-existent God come down from Heaven and become man in the person of Jesus, or did Jesus the man achieve divinity? This question emerges as a consequence of the work of a number of Catholic theologians, although most of them would probably reject the question in that form.

Personally, I reject the question in its entirety.

God-Man Unity

In his “The Theandric Nature of Christ”, David Coffey sets out “to concentrate on the unity of Christ without thereby devaluing his humanity over against his divinity.” His study “transfers the focus of his unity from the divinity to the humanity, so that the former is clearly seen to be actualised in the latter.” Coffey argues that the theandric, or divine-human character “of Christ’s human nature emerges from a critical study of Karl Rahner’s Christology that deepens our understanding of human nature itself.” (1999,405) He notes that in a 1958 essay Rahner had argued that human nature has “when assumed by God as his reality, simply arrived at the point to which it strives by virtue of its essence.” (1999, 411-12)  This view proposes a deeper understanding of human nature – that human nature is essentially oriented towards its own divinisation, while Coffey maintains that Christ’s divinity is actualised within his human nature.

Theandric? So…is there a Homo Theanderthal in the works somewhere?

Snip:

So from Hulsbosch, Schillebeecks, Schoonenberg and North we have agreement that latent possibilities, which are somehow contained within matter itself, evolve to reveal Jesus the God-man. From Rahner we have human nature striving towards divinisation by virtue of its essence. If human nature strives towards divinisation “by virtue of its essence” and if Jesus represents “an unfolding of possibilities which were somehow latent within matter itself”, we must try to understand those processes through which this occurs. We need to find how human nature strives towards its divinisation and how the possibilities that are latent in matter are realised. We have to ask:

A) How do the latent possibilities within matter come to be realised, and in particular, what form of evolutionary process might realise these possibilities?

The answer here, is almost Zen in and of itself: there were no latent possibilities, and the matter realized itself.

(B) Within an evolutionary process, how might humanity achieve the divinisation that it pursues by virtue of its essence? What evolutionary process could humanity utilise in its striving towards divinisation?

Well, ZERO comes to mind, as there is no ‘divine’  -  this is presupposition liberally mixed with psychobabble.

(C) As Jesus has achieved the divinisation that humanity pursues by virtue of its essence, what is the nature of the process that produced Jesus?

Again, presupposes Jay-bus even existed. Even if he did, was his birth a result of parthenogenesis (the virgin birth)? Is there some way to analyze the DNA? Oh, that’s right: they can’t even find the tomb, so how would this apply at all?

The ultimate divinisation, or deification, of man is Christian teaching, but how this might happen has always been obscure. This problem is highlighted by E.L. Mascall, who says: “The vision of God, union with God, assimilation to God – in such terms Christianity, basing itself on the Bible itself, has consistently described man’s end and beatitude. Yet it is by no means easy to see how such a destiny is consistent with the radical distinction between God and the creature. To be a creature is to exist with a derived existence; to exist with an underived existence is to be God; there can be no half-way house. How then can a creature be deified? – for this is the term which Christian theology has dared to use.” (1949,184) He contrasts the rational conviction of the “absolute distinction between God and creatures” to the equally firm faith conviction “that we can literally become ‘partakers of the divine nature.’ (2 Pet. I,4)” (1949,185)

This is all really too much. Until they can find ‘deity’, capture it, analyze it, and sell it along with Estee Lauder products, this is all a bunch of metaphysical rubbish.

And at this point, the author screws the pooch:

I argue that Mascall proposes a false dichotomy between a derived and an underived existence when he argues that there can be “no half-way house” between underived being and derived being.  Once evolution is understood as a process that involves both self-organisation and self-creation, we can postulate an intermediate position between a derived and an underived existence. This intermediate position, as the product of a process of self-creation, can be closer to the underived existence of God than to the derived existence of a creature. In my dissertation on “The Process of the Cosmos” I develop a Natural Theology, based on contemporary Cosmology, which identifies the role of human moral-cultural self-creation in the overall process of the Cosmos.

So, this runs fairly contrary to all expectations of the ‘religious evolutionists’. By the very operational definitions of ‘self-organisation’ and ‘self-creation’, it relegates their deity to near-nothingness, a bystander instead of a proactive ‘creator’.  If something ‘organizes’ itself, then no external participants need apply. The same goes for the ‘creation’ part.

The author attempts to back pedal here:

The natural theology of “The Process of the Cosmos” is not significantly affected by Biefeldt’s conclusion, indeed it argues for an understanding of God who does not intervene, or who intervenes minimally, and who certainly does not intervene in the normal life of the world. In “The Process of the Cosmos” I argued that God initiated each new Emergent stage. I now resile from all intervention by God in the process of the cosmos, once the process has been initiated, except for the initiation of life, which would seem to have been associated with a transfer of information and energy. The initiation of the cosmos, the first Emergent, is clearly associated with a transfer of information and energy. It is not affected by Biefeldt’s argument.

But this is Aquinas’ ‘Uncaused First Cause’ argument revisited, not a demonstrative proof of any sort.

The rest is a grab bag of analogical arguments, some copy/paste from different ‘philosophers’, and in general, an entertaining read.  Mind you, subtract ‘gawd’ from the equation, and the house of cards crumbles, but it’s interesting to see the thought processes of those who are at least making the effort to acknowledge evolution, but unwilling to forgo their superstitions.

Till the next post, then.

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Game show looks to convert atheists

7 July 2009 by Stardust

A Turkish television station is launching a game show where a Muslim imam, a Christian priest, a rabbi and a Buddhist monk all try to convert a group of ten atheists.

Game show looks to convert atheists

“Doing something like this for the sake of ratings is disrespectful to all religions. Religion should not be a subject for entertainment programs,” High Board of Religious Affairs Chairman Hamza Aktan told state news agency Anatolian after news of the planned program emerged.

Whoever said we must respect religion of any kind? While we may respect people’s rights to believe in whatever delusion they choose, no one is obligated to respect any delusional beliefs of any kind (unless one is living in a theocracy).

I would also like to point out to these folks that religious services in themselves are often basically “spiritual entertainment extravaganzas” especially for the Christian fundamentalist megachurches. Ritual, music, singing are all forms of entertainment in disguise as “worship”.

If you are a “true atheist”, going on a goofy program isn’t going to change your mind. Unless you want to lie just to get a free trip to a religious site out of it. But, they think they have that covered:

A team of theologians will ensure that the atheists are truly non-believers and are not just seeking fame or a free holiday.

A team of delusional folks who can’t tell reality from fantasy are going to be able to identify “true non-believers” . . . yeah, ok.

“We are giving the biggest prize in the world, the gift of belief in God,” Kanal T chief executive Seyhan Soylu told Reuters.

“We don’t approve of anyone being an atheist. God is great and it doesn’t matter which religion you believe in. The important thing is to believe,” Soylu said.

Ok, I believe in the religion of myself and I am God. Can I have a trip to my sacred site in the Hawaiian Islands now?

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The Atheist Miracle

5 July 2009 by Bob

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Allegories Gone Wild – TEOTWAWKI And The Informercial

5 July 2009 by KA

TEOTWAWKI_____Doomsday___by_Hideyoshi

It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it.
It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. – R.E.M, It’s The End Of The World

I came home this morning, and found a pamphlet tucked into my doorsill, and that pamphlet was from the Jehovah’s Witless, trumpeting about the End Of The World. It’s not enough that these anachronisms fantasize about the EOTW, but they feel bound and obliged to share it with the rest of us.

That little nugget comes from Ezekiel 3:18-19
18 If I say to the wicked person: (A) You will surely die, but you do not warn him—you don’t speak out to warn him about his wicked way in order to save his life—that wicked person will die for his iniquity. Yet I will hold you responsible for his blood. 19 But if you warn a wicked person and he does not turn from his wickedness or his wicked way, he will die for his iniquity, but you will have saved your life.

Thanks, Zeke. You helped make life a little more difficult, as if it wasn’t enough already. The bible – enabling crazy and delusional people since the 10th century BCE.

So today’s rant pretty much targets another End-Day-er, and sure enough, if you read the sentences, and then close your eyes, you can actually see in your mind’s eye, an infomercial.

Christians: “Finally Understand Bible Prophecy (Including What Event To Expect Next) Thanks To A Prophetic Timeline Breakthrough Based On Two Overlooked Keys in the Words of Jesus

So, does anyone here wonder why I have a problem with allegory? Some clown finds two or three alternate wordings in a ‘sacred text’, and voila! Time to restructure the epistemology!

New Update!
Iran In Prophecy

My latest research shows where Iran’s devastation is in Bible prophecy. Ahmadinejad’s plan to wipe Israel off the map with nuclear weapons will backfire and cause his own people to flee Iran. It’s the next prophecy to be fulfilled and will affect everyone who depends on the flow of Middle East / Strait of Hormuz oil.

Quick! Notify the Pentagon! This stuff is gold! Let me guess….somewhere in 2012, right? So – somewhere in the bibble, it says the missiles will turn back on the launchers, right?

Congratulations, you’re about to discover surprising Bible secrets that few have the chance to hear. My name is Tim McHyde (like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. And yes, in case you’re wondering, I did get teased a lot for my name when I was a kid :-) For over 20 years now, I have had an absolute passion for understanding the mysteries of the Bible, especially what Bible prophecy reveals will really happen in the future.

Because hobbies in the real world don’t enable your delusions, no doubt.

As a result of that curiosity and persistence, I’ve made unbelievable progress in turning the Book of Revelation from a frustrating codebook into a understandable playbook that anyone, including you, can readily understand and use to your benefit in the troubled times ahead. Given the nature of the challenges that are coming, this information can literally save your life.

The problems here are manifold: A. McHyde presupposes a deity, B. presupposes the wholly bibble is accurate, and C. presupposes that the book in question isn’t topical (which internal markers actually show that it is).

First, judging from all the emails I have received to my Bible prophecy websites since 2000…

More people with no hobbies?

Guess What Hard Question People Want To Know Most From Me These Days?

I’ll give you a clue. It directly relates to this string of tragedies that have recently happened:

  1. 9-11 World Trade Center Attack
  2. The Earthquake and Tsunami at Sumatra
  3. Hurricane Katrina’s castastrophic flooding of the city of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast states
  4. …and also to these doomsday scenarios in the news (some of which only receive coverage on the Internet):
  5. Global warming and other drastic climate change
  6. Iran’s nuclear bomb and Islamic apocalypse aspirations (which can also create oil crises) bringing war to the Middle East
  7. Terrorist dirty nukes on American soil (in response to an Iran invasion)
  8. Hubbard’s peak oil crisis
  9. Potential impacts from near earth objects (comets, asteroids, meteors)
  10. China invading Taiwan (who America is avowed to defend)
  11. Conflict with North Korea over her nuclear missiles capable of striking California
  12. World War III
  13. Avian flu virus pandemic
  14. Overpopulation
  15. More killer hurricanes
  16. The Next 9-11 Attack
  17. More killer earthquakes (California is considered overdue for a Big One)

Can you guess now?

Ah, hello? Number 12 hasn’t happened yet?

The question I’m asked most is driven by a growing suspicion that our best days may already be behind us and a day is coming to mark "the end of the world as we know it" (TEOTWAWKI). This is the dreaded day when the good times of prosperity, freedom, stability and security that we enjoy and downright expect today are over. This generation has never seen a Great Depression, Holocaust or World War but realizes evil and danger have multiplied in the world since those days making it unreasonable to expect that history will not repeat itself.

This has been an ongoing non-discussion for the past 2000 years. Arguably, the ‘world as we know it’ ends on a regular basis because the ‘status quo’ is constantly in flux.

So, the question everyone seems to want to know from me is if Bible prophecy tell us what really will cause the world to unravel and more importantly, when will this happen and what do we do about it?

Simple answer(s): no, no such thing as ‘prophecy’, so not gonna happen.

The answer is "yes" the Bible tells us what will happen and enough clues to know when to expect it and, thankfully, also how to "escape all these things" as Jesus himself put it.

There are better hobbies to be had than sitting around playing witless guessing games.

Now, I’ll admit it right here: this concept of TEOTWAWKI coming can be a major downer that nobody would want to believe or think about. It makes you feel hopeless to hear that the world will only get worse. If you naturally believe that there is nothing you can do about it, of course you’d rather just immediately put it out of your mind, ignore it, or go watch TV or play a video game to help you feel good about life again.

Thanks, Dr. Phil.

But there is hope and a better approach than just ignoring the signs of the times and the handwriting on the wall, so to speak.

Does this cat know that the book of Daniel is pretty much a joke?

The Solution: Follow God’s Survival Plan For You

Well, as you know… Even though many people have a computer, few have the knowledge and training they need in order to harness its full potential to make life easier.

That exact same principle holds true about your understanding of Bible prophecy.

Uh, no, it’s firmly established that biblical prophecy is codswallop. Also, the analogy is so brittle it collapses, as one cannot compare a 20th century technological tool to a set of anachronistic musty old rules put together by a fiercely nomadic and insular society from the Iron Age.

Just as it takes advanced knowledge to get the most from your computer, understanding any part of the Bible takes more than just knowing how to read. There’s actually a prophetic roadmap found in the Bible that must be understood first in order to properly interpret the Biblical prophecies, and eventually unlock their full meaning so you can anticipate future events just as God intended.

Exempting of course, lottery numbers, horse races, actual economic forecasts, and anything vaguely resembling reality.

Unfortunately, most people (including you) probably aren’t even aware of this "prophetic roadmap" much less the fact that you can actually use it to improve your life!

Much of it goes on in this vein – including (I kid you not) a money back guarantee!

But somehow, this will be exempted from consideration as fraud, because it’s religious.

Or, as David Hannum put it, “There’s a sucker born every minute.”

A joyful Fourth to you and yours. This is the Apostate, signing off.

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News blurb: Sarah Palin says so long, for now . . .

3 July 2009 by Stardust

Is it really any surprise?

Sarah Palin resigning as Governor of Alaska

Palin has stated:

“We know we can affect positive change outside government at this moment in time on another scale and actually make a difference,”

However, this move raises speculations that this decision will free up her time to allow her to travel about the country without the responsibilities as governor. She would be better able to focus on a run for the White House in the 2012 race. Will she be back, or is she gone from the political arena for good? We can hope for the latter, but I think we haven’t seen the last of her.

Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell will be inaugurated at the governor’s picnic in Fairbanks at the end of the month, Palin spokesman Dave Murrow said.

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