Comments on: Messed-Up Bible Stories: Cain and Abel

By: Stardust

Stardust — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:43:34 +0000

Daniel, I bet I can prove I exist to the satisfaction of most scientists and rational-thinking people. You can see me, touch me, talk to me and I actually answer back. If you are about to walk in front of a moving truck and there is the great imaginary friend and myself, you can bet who is actually going to be able to save you from being run over.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:45:12 +0000

David J. wrote:

“I am, because I exist. I can prove it.”

I bet you cannot prove it to my satisfaction??? I am pretty stringent on what I will accept as evidence. LOL.

By: Stardust

Stardust — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:17:05 +0000

Seems he slunk back into the shadows to lurk because he has no sci-yen-tific ci-TAY-shuns. No proof…only that one little book he is getting his “will happens” from.

By: Krystalline Apostate

Krystalline Apostate — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:03:57 +0000

Hey, is Joe-EEE! still around? Still waiting for them thar durned sci-yen-tific ci-TAY-shuns that he claims puh-ROVES his gawd, hall-lay-LOO-yah! Hyuk.
Or did he just pick up his marbles & go home?

By: David J

David J — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:13:50 +0000

The only reason “old earth creationists” exist is because the evidence from the archaeological strata is so overwhelmingly convincing that the earth is older than 6,000 years (or whatever) as to render even faith in the “biblical account” moot. The evidence in the ground and in science is so convincing that it has caused the pendulum to swing to the middle for believers, and so now we have people that want to hold on to BOTH views: old earth AND the biblical cosmogony. But…

…and this is a BIG “but”…

THE PROBLEM WITH THE MIDDLE GROUND IN THIS IS THAT NEITHER THE BIBLICAL ACCOUNT NOR CHRISTIAN TRADITION ALLOW FOR IT. So, “old earth creationist,” you are essentially putting words in God’s mouth. How dare you! Are you greater than God?

I am, because I exist. I can prove it.

By: Stardust

Stardust — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:30:11 +0000

I see Joe B still hasn’t returned to answer the other two questions and back up some of those “will someday happen” predictions in the lame book he keeps telling us to read instead of answering questions on his own. He hasn’t been able to give any answers from his own brain. He simply tells us to read this one book and provides a link from idiot Ray Comfort. No respected scientists, no scientific journal sources, no credible information what-so-ever.

Fritzy, your question will also be ignored “where does the science end and the faith begin”.

As far as a supernatural being “guiding” everything, perhaps Joe B might want to consider conjoined twins. What is the benefit to humanity when two people must go around stuck to each other at the head, chest etc for their whole lives? What benefit is it for a cow or any other animal to be born with two heads? To say that a god is doing this purposely for whatever reason would make this god a very sadistic bastard.

And there is little difference between an “Old Earth Creationist” and a “Young Earth Creationist”…they both believe that an invisible sky genie zapped everything into existence with a magic wink.

You sum it up Joe’s “predictions” nicely, Fritzy…they aren’t predictions, it’s a wish list.

By: Fritzy

Fritzy — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:31:00 +0000

that’s supposed to read “where does the science END and the faith begin?” Lack of sleep

By: Fritzy

Fritzy — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:29:23 +0000

After reading Joe B’s “predictions” of ID, I can’t help but come to the conclusion that “old earth creationists” are crazier than their “young earth” counterparts. Where does the science and and the faith begin? The whole “theory” seems disingenuous. At least young earth creationsists are being intellectually honest, in so as far as their intellect is able to take them.

And quite frankly, the notion of any supernatural being “guiding” evolution/natural selection makes said supernatural being viciously red of tooth and claw. Natural selection is grizzly, and so is this “old-earth creator.”

And Jesus Henry Christ on a Cracker, I am so sick of that goddamned false dichotomy of “micro” and “macro” evolution being bandied about by every ID numbskull who think they’ve hit on some kind of intellectual compromise. Thank you to BEAJ for dispatching of that one quickly.

BTW, Joe, those are not scientific predictions: that’s a wish-list.