Comments on: What is an atheist to think? http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/06/09/what-is-an-atheist-to-think/ THIS BLOG IS NO LONGER ACTIVE. We've retired this blog, but the GifS gang is now active at Atheist Oasis (atheistoasis.wordpress.com). Visit us there! Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:44:32 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ChuckA http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/06/09/what-is-an-atheist-to-think/comment-page-1/#comment-421068 ChuckA Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:00:31 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6471#comment-421068 ^^ Or is it another example of "High Profile Ambition", easily trumping the more bold, but much more highly dangerous...total rational honesty. [Pardon a VERY slight, and cautious takeoff on Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar"?... bits of Mark Anthony's speech, perhaps? Definitely skipping any remote death implication, of course.] Like, in particular...referring to Politicians, in general: "So are they all...ALL, honorable men (persons?); but perhaps more often...spineless and ambitious bullshitters!" ^^ Or is it another example of “High Profile Ambition”, easily trumping the more bold, but much more highly dangerous…total rational honesty.
[Pardon a VERY slight, and cautious takeoff on Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar"?...
bits of Mark Anthony's speech, perhaps? Definitely skipping any remote death implication, of course.]
Like, in particular…referring to Politicians, in general:
“So are they all…ALL, honorable men (persons?); but perhaps more often…spineless and ambitious bullshitters!”

]]> By: jasen hylbert http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/06/09/what-is-an-atheist-to-think/comment-page-1/#comment-421065 jasen hylbert Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:19:33 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6471#comment-421065 Ever consider the fact that Obama is actually pretty stupid and unquestioning? This is a guy who has moved in the wrong direction on this issue! Once an agnostic and now a fully fledged Jesustani, Barry is a great example of some of the backwardness that still abounds today. Ever consider the fact that Obama is actually pretty stupid and unquestioning? This is a guy who has moved in the wrong direction on this issue! Once an agnostic and now a fully fledged Jesustani, Barry is a great example of some of the backwardness that still abounds today.

]]> By: ChuckA http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/06/09/what-is-an-atheist-to-think/comment-page-1/#comment-420971 ChuckA Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:29:42 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6471#comment-420971 ^^ RE "Pavlov's Poodles"; as I've said elsewhere...just ONCE...I'd love to witness Obama having the actual 'balls' to end a speech without any Gawd reference, whatsoever. I can only imagine the brouhaha THAT would stir up. Or maybe not. The usual: "Pay no attention to the missing Sky Daddy Tyrant behind the curtain...?" 'The media would certainly squirm, try to avoid, or give some kind of excuses by skipping over that portion of the speech; but like so many aspects which expose the National hypocrisy about religion, move on to other topics. We all know it ain't gonna happen, of course! Today's News about the election in Iran made me think of similar aspects of media coverage. The bottom-line, no matter who wins the Iranian election; Iran is a Muslim Theocracy, with the Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei fucktard at the top (with a Q'uran FIRMLY up his ass); and we've all witnessed Ahmadinejad spouting his completely brainwashed moronic Islamic crap in various speeches. For the nth time; "Religion poisons everything", whilst the "shitting in their panties"...but potentially violent and vicious...Sheeple majority choose to remain oblivious and relatively unshaken when ANY sign of rational truth pops its head up. OK...humor me?... (cue Richard Strauss: "Thus Spake Zarathustra" opening) Remembering the early "2001 a Space Odyssey" scene with the monolith; it's like we've got TWO dominating monoliths...The Bible and the Quran mesmerizing two huge tribes of totally confused, wide-eyed and in awe, unevolved sheeple apes, (metaphorically) fingering their surface. And, of course, eventually, perhaps inevitably, beating the shit out of each other over the, mindlessly perceived, total nonsense. OK...I admit; that was a stretch. Explanation?...Actually, I had that classic film on my brain. I'm intending to DVR it to disk, from Comcast "On Demand". [feigns throwing bone in the air and cueing the Johanne Strauss waltz.] It's also kinda strange to me that here we are in 2009; realizing how really far off the film was in its 'prediction'. The (1984) "2010" followup kinda sucked, IMO...zama, zama. Actually...today is probably more like Orwell's "1984"...? Pardon my rambling? ^^ RE “Pavlov’s Poodles”; as I’ve said elsewhere…just ONCE…I’d love to witness Obama having the actual ‘balls’ to end a speech without any Gawd reference, whatsoever.
I can only imagine the brouhaha THAT would stir up.
Or maybe not. The usual: “Pay no attention to the missing Sky Daddy Tyrant behind the curtain…?”
‘The media would certainly squirm, try to avoid, or give some kind of excuses by skipping over that portion of the speech; but like so many aspects which expose the National hypocrisy about religion, move on to other topics.
We all know it ain’t gonna happen, of course!

Today’s News about the election in Iran made me think of similar aspects of media coverage. The bottom-line, no matter who wins the Iranian election; Iran is a Muslim Theocracy, with the Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei fucktard at the top (with a Q’uran FIRMLY up his ass); and we’ve all witnessed Ahmadinejad spouting his completely brainwashed moronic Islamic crap in various speeches.
For the nth time; “Religion poisons everything”, whilst the “shitting in their panties”…but potentially violent and vicious…Sheeple majority choose to remain oblivious and relatively unshaken when ANY sign of rational truth pops its head up.
OK…humor me?…
(cue Richard Strauss: “Thus Spake Zarathustra” opening)
Remembering the early “2001 a Space Odyssey” scene with the monolith; it’s like we’ve got TWO dominating monoliths…The Bible and the Quran mesmerizing two huge tribes of totally confused, wide-eyed and in awe, unevolved sheeple apes, (metaphorically) fingering their surface.
And, of course, eventually, perhaps inevitably, beating the shit out of each other over the, mindlessly perceived, total nonsense.
OK…I admit; that was a stretch.
Explanation?…Actually, I had that classic film on my brain. I’m intending to DVR it to disk, from Comcast “On Demand”.
[feigns throwing bone in the air and cueing the Johanne Strauss waltz.]
It’s also kinda strange to me that here we are in 2009; realizing how really far off the film was in its ‘prediction’.
The (1984) “2010″ followup kinda sucked, IMO…zama, zama.
Actually…today is probably more like Orwell’s “1984″…?
Pardon my rambling?

]]> By: Naomi http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/06/09/what-is-an-atheist-to-think/comment-page-1/#comment-420970 Naomi Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:26:04 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6471#comment-420970 Sarah, the second link carries a "correction" at the end, after the journalist's bona fides. However, it tells us little more than this bit-o'-spin(?)": <blockquote>Correction: An earlier version of this story said President Obama has only gone to church services once since being elected president. White House officials say he also has attended services at Camp David, but could not say how many times.</blockquote> I say he's not the faithful/pious xian he wants us to believe he is. Opportunist? Probably. But, like many people in the spotlight, they know that they must appear to believe in order to keep the spotlight. Until the nuisance-value of the fundies is neutralized (or my choice: eradicated), we're stuck with "Pavlov's Poodles" salivating every time they hear "jeebus" and "doG" added to a speech. To say nothing of the code: grace, bless, faith, saved, salvation, good news, etc. Sarah, the second link carries a “correction” at the end, after the journalist’s bona fides. However, it tells us little more than this bit-o’-spin(?)”:

Correction: An earlier version of this story said President Obama has only gone to church services once since being elected president. White House officials say he also has attended services at Camp David, but could not say how many times.

I say he’s not the faithful/pious xian he wants us to believe he is. Opportunist? Probably. But, like many people in the spotlight, they know that they must appear to believe in order to keep the spotlight. Until the nuisance-value of the fundies is neutralized (or my choice: eradicated), we’re stuck with “Pavlov’s Poodles” salivating every time they hear “jeebus” and “doG” added to a speech. To say nothing of the code: grace, bless, faith, saved, salvation, good news, etc.

]]> By: Sarah http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/06/09/what-is-an-atheist-to-think/comment-page-1/#comment-420963 Sarah Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:04:32 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6471#comment-420963 When he mentioned Jesus during the election, I figured that he just needed to dispel the Muslim rumors and secure the all-important dumbass vote. But now he's elected and still doing it. I agree, he's a believer. *sigh* I did read an article that stated that he rarely attends church services, though. When he mentioned Jesus during the election, I figured that he just needed to dispel the Muslim rumors and secure the all-important dumbass vote.

But now he’s elected and still doing it. I agree, he’s a believer. *sigh*

I did read an article that stated that he rarely attends church services, though.

]]> By: Stardust http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/06/09/what-is-an-atheist-to-think/comment-page-1/#comment-420938 Stardust Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:38:08 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6471#comment-420938 Ron, I agree. I have no doubt that Obama is a believer. Though he hasn't proselytized in a direct manner, he is still doing so indirectly via his rhetoric. He understands the freedom of religion thing, and understands people have their rights to their own beliefs or to have no beliefs at all, but he is definitely a believer. Maybe not really into the church-going so much, but he does believe in a god. He's definitely not an atheist. Nothing in his rhetoric about himself is vague about that. Ron, I agree. I have no doubt that Obama is a believer. Though he hasn’t proselytized in a direct manner, he is still doing so indirectly via his rhetoric. He understands the freedom of religion thing, and understands people have their rights to their own beliefs or to have no beliefs at all, but he is definitely a believer. Maybe not really into the church-going so much, but he does believe in a god. He’s definitely not an atheist. Nothing in his rhetoric about himself is vague about that.

]]> By: Ron Hager http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/06/09/what-is-an-atheist-to-think/comment-page-1/#comment-420935 Ron Hager Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:20:03 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6471#comment-420935 If he looks like a "believer" and sounds like a "believer" and acts like a "believer" he sure the hell ain't an Atheist. The only "believer" thing he hasn't done yet is prosthelize. Give him time, he will. If he looks like a “believer” and sounds like a “believer” and acts like a “believer” he sure the hell ain’t an Atheist. The only “believer” thing he hasn’t done yet is prosthelize. Give him time, he will.

]]> By: Lynda http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/06/09/what-is-an-atheist-to-think/comment-page-1/#comment-420919 Lynda Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:40:14 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6471#comment-420919 <i>I read Makarios post (well most of it, anyway). It was about as awful as any I’ve read.</i> Me too. There's some time I won't get back. Argh! I read Makarios post (well most of it, anyway). It was about as awful as any I’ve read.

Me too. There’s some time I won’t get back. Argh!

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