Comments on: Church of Scientology on trial in France http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/05/28/church-of-scientology-on-trial-in-france/ THIS BLOG IS NO LONGER ACTIVE. We've retired this blog, but the GifS gang is now active at Atheist Oasis (atheistoasis.wordpress.com). Visit us there! Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:44:32 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Fritzy http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/05/28/church-of-scientology-on-trial-in-france/comment-page-1/#comment-420446 Fritzy Sat, 30 May 2009 18:11:00 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6406#comment-420446 "I can understand the argument in favor of the victims who were taken advantage of, but then go after the crime, not ban the believers right to follow their religion, as goofy as it may be." I agree. Religion, although in may ways criminal, is not a crime. Fraud is. If they can truly demonstrate fraud (such as stated above by metaxis) then prosecute away. But banning delusion? Good luck. And the last thing Scientology needs (or deserves, for that matter) is martyr status. And I agree; the only difference between "cult" and "religion" is who holds the reins. Is belief in a genocidal alien really any more ludicrous than worshipping a 2000 year old Jewish zombie? “I can understand the argument in favor of the victims who were taken advantage of, but then go after the crime, not ban the believers right to follow their religion, as goofy as it may be.”

I agree. Religion, although in may ways criminal, is not a crime. Fraud is. If they can truly demonstrate fraud (such as stated above by metaxis) then prosecute away. But banning delusion? Good luck. And the last thing Scientology needs (or deserves, for that matter) is martyr status.

And I agree; the only difference between “cult” and “religion” is who holds the reins. Is belief in a genocidal alien really any more ludicrous than worshipping a 2000 year old Jewish zombie?

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By: Krystalline Apostate http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/05/28/church-of-scientology-on-trial-in-france/comment-page-1/#comment-420438 Krystalline Apostate Sat, 30 May 2009 04:14:55 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6406#comment-420438 <blockquote>You call it religious and I call it cultish….. Let’s call the whole thing off….</blockquote> Cult po-TAY-to or cult po-TAH-to?

You call it religious and I call it cultish….. Let’s call the whole thing off….

Cult po-TAY-to or cult po-TAH-to?

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By: Lynda http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/05/28/church-of-scientology-on-trial-in-france/comment-page-1/#comment-420431 Lynda Sat, 30 May 2009 01:06:40 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6406#comment-420431 You call it religious and I call it cultish..... Let's call the whole thing off.... You call it religious and I call it cultish….. Let’s call the whole thing off….

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By: Krystalline Apostate http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/05/28/church-of-scientology-on-trial-in-france/comment-page-1/#comment-420429 Krystalline Apostate Fri, 29 May 2009 23:18:11 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6406#comment-420429 littlejohn: <blockquote>Our willingness to label any movement a “cult” seems to be directly related to how recently it was founded. Christian Science and Mormonism are also easily dismissed, because we have a clear, recent historical record of how and when they were made up.</blockquote> Cult is what the larger denomination calls the smaller denomination. <blockquote>That information isn’t really available about Judaism, Christianity and Islam, so we’re reluctant to call them cults.</blockquote> I do, & regularly too. littlejohn:

Our willingness to label any movement a “cult” seems to be directly related to how recently it was founded. Christian Science and Mormonism are also easily dismissed, because we have a clear, recent historical record of how and when they were made up.

Cult is what the larger denomination calls the smaller denomination.

That information isn’t really available about Judaism, Christianity and Islam, so we’re reluctant to call them cults.

I do, & regularly too.

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By: littlejohn http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/05/28/church-of-scientology-on-trial-in-france/comment-page-1/#comment-420428 littlejohn Fri, 29 May 2009 22:01:52 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6406#comment-420428 Our willingness to label any movement a "cult" seems to be directly related to how recently it was founded. Christian Science and Mormonism are also easily dismissed, because we have a clear, recent historical record of how and when they were made up. That information isn't really available about Judaism, Christianity and Islam, so we're reluctant to call them cults. But examine their claims and they're just as goofy as Tom Cruise and company, and just as made up. Our willingness to label any movement a “cult” seems to be directly related to how recently it was founded. Christian Science and Mormonism are also easily dismissed, because we have a clear, recent historical record of how and when they were made up.
That information isn’t really available about Judaism, Christianity and Islam, so we’re reluctant to call them cults. But examine their claims and they’re just as goofy as Tom Cruise and company, and just as made up.

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By: jurassicpork http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/05/28/church-of-scientology-on-trial-in-france/comment-page-1/#comment-420416 jurassicpork Fri, 29 May 2009 19:49:40 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6406#comment-420416 Hey, why not? Wikipedia gave them the old heaveho. Why not France? Hey, why not? Wikipedia gave them the old heaveho. Why not France?

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By: DBK http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/05/28/church-of-scientology-on-trial-in-france/comment-page-1/#comment-420412 DBK Fri, 29 May 2009 19:03:29 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6406#comment-420412 Banning any religion would be like banning mental illness. I mean <em>exactly</em> like banning mental illness. Banning any religion would be like banning mental illness. I mean exactly like banning mental illness.

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By: ChuckA http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/05/28/church-of-scientology-on-trial-in-france/comment-page-1/#comment-420411 ChuckA Fri, 29 May 2009 18:30:40 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=6406#comment-420411 This Post just reminds me of the astounding amount of human (religiously connected, of course!) bullshit which NEVER got put on trial...anywhere. The whole history of the "Human Race", for that matter, could be put on trial; with 'its' endless number of insane fuckheads and institutions; who caused innumerable and tragic Wars, mostly untold miserable suffering, horrific persecution, and total, blind sheeple, insanity. Of course, it's being added to, everyday, often, right under our collective noses. BUT...like that short-lived little 1980s ditty... "Don't Worry, Be Happy!"? [Hey, it's Friday...another weekend coming up...WTF!...cue Bobby McFerrin?]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9K4BKkLaCI This Post just reminds me of the astounding amount of human (religiously connected, of course!) bullshit which NEVER got put on trial…anywhere.
The whole history of the “Human Race”, for that matter, could be put on trial; with ‘its’ endless number of insane fuckheads and institutions; who caused innumerable and tragic Wars, mostly untold miserable suffering, horrific persecution, and total, blind sheeple, insanity.
Of course, it’s being added to, everyday, often, right under our collective noses.
BUT…like that short-lived little 1980s ditty…
“Don’t Worry, Be Happy!”?
[Hey, it's Friday...another weekend coming up...WTF!...cue Bobby McFerrin?]:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9K4BKkLaCI

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