Comments on: The UN vs Right to Blaspheme http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/03/10/the-un-vs-right-to-blaspheme/ THIS BLOG IS NO LONGER ACTIVE. We've retired this blog, but the GifS gang is now active at Atheist Oasis (atheistoasis.wordpress.com). Visit us there! Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:44:32 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: jasen hylbert http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/03/10/the-un-vs-right-to-blaspheme/comment-page-1/#comment-416305 jasen hylbert Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:29:55 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5696#comment-416305 It would be entertaining to see someone try and defend such a bone headed resolution. I think Hitchen's analysis was pretty entertaining though, plus his was motivated by logical thought! Those who think this is a non issue should think about the fact that sharia laws have already been enforced in the USA. I just hope and pray that the Pastafarians have contributed enough assets to these morons at the UN to have their saucy beliefs protected from those meanies who would dare to poke fun or critizize her holy meatballness. It would be entertaining to see someone try and defend such a bone headed resolution. I think Hitchen’s analysis was pretty entertaining though, plus his was motivated by logical thought! Those who think this is a non issue should think about the fact that sharia laws have already been enforced in the USA. I just hope and pray that the Pastafarians have contributed enough assets to these morons at the UN to have their saucy beliefs protected from those meanies who would dare to poke fun or critizize her holy meatballness.

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By: Tommykey http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/03/10/the-un-vs-right-to-blaspheme/comment-page-1/#comment-416220 Tommykey Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:51:06 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5696#comment-416220 Definitely thought-provoking. However, I would like to have seen a supporter of the resolution on Dobbs' program, if only to see the person actually be forced to defend it in a public forum. Definitely thought-provoking. However, I would like to have seen a supporter of the resolution on Dobbs’ program, if only to see the person actually be forced to defend it in a public forum.

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By: Stardust http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/03/10/the-un-vs-right-to-blaspheme/comment-page-1/#comment-416101 Stardust Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:33:17 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5696#comment-416101 <i>One thing the anti-blasphemy rules might do is make it more difficult for religions to sell their gospels in the public forum</i> That's mainly why the fundie Xians are against this resolution. They wouldn't be able to go to Muslim countries and try to convert them. They aren't concerned with human rights and free speech. If they could shut us atheists up and keep us from dissing XIanity here in the US, they would do it in a heartbeat. They are concerned about their own freedom to try to do their "missionary work" in other countries. One thing the anti-blasphemy rules might do is make it more difficult for religions to sell their gospels in the public forum

That’s mainly why the fundie Xians are against this resolution. They wouldn’t be able to go to Muslim countries and try to convert them. They aren’t concerned with human rights and free speech. If they could shut us atheists up and keep us from dissing XIanity here in the US, they would do it in a heartbeat. They are concerned about their own freedom to try to do their “missionary work” in other countries.

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By: Lynda http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/03/10/the-un-vs-right-to-blaspheme/comment-page-1/#comment-416100 Lynda Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:25:37 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5696#comment-416100 Part of an article at http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=9b8e3a6d-795d-440f-a5de-6ff6e78c78d5 ran this quote: <i>"Canada rejects the basic premise that religions have rights; human rights belong to human beings,” said Catherine Loubier, spokeswoman for Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon. “The focus (here) should not be on protecting religions, but rather on protecting the rights of the adherents of religions, including of people belonging to religious minorities, or people who may choose to change their religion, or not to practice religion at all.” </i> That being stated, Canada still has an anti-blasphemy law on its books already. Hasn't been used in over 70 years though. As the world becomes more of a global community these resolutions will have less ability to restrict freedoms. One thing the anti-blasphemy rules might do is make it more difficult for religions to sell their gospels in the public forum, since every religion steps on the toes of another religion. This could be good for atheists. "IMAGINE there's no... religion." Part of an article at
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=9b8e3a6d-795d-440f-a5de-6ff6e78c78d5
ran this quote:
“Canada rejects the basic premise that religions have rights; human rights belong to human beings,” said Catherine Loubier, spokeswoman for Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon.
“The focus (here) should not be on protecting religions, but rather on protecting the rights of the adherents of religions, including of people belonging to religious minorities, or people who may choose to change their religion, or not to practice religion at all.”

That being stated, Canada still has an anti-blasphemy law on its books already. Hasn’t been used in over 70 years though.

As the world becomes more of a global community these resolutions will have less ability to restrict freedoms. One thing the anti-blasphemy rules might do is make it more difficult for religions to sell their gospels in the public forum, since every religion steps on the toes of another religion. This could be good for atheists. “IMAGINE there’s no… religion.”

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By: fritzy http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/03/10/the-un-vs-right-to-blaspheme/comment-page-1/#comment-416065 fritzy Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:45:56 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5696#comment-416065 From the way muslims behave, one can only come to the conclusion that Allah (peanut butter sandwiches) is about the most needy, demanding and impotent diety. As Brooklyn Boy mentioned, why do Muslims have to do skydaddy's dirty work for him? As for this story--another illustration that cultural relativism is truly evil and can only lead to the ultimate distruction of liberal democracy. Free societies are so afraid to just call something "wrong," they are allowing their freedom of thought and speech to be used to, ironically, destroy free thought and speech. From the way muslims behave, one can only come to the conclusion that Allah (peanut butter sandwiches) is about the most needy, demanding and impotent diety. As Brooklyn Boy mentioned, why do Muslims have to do skydaddy’s dirty work for him?

As for this story–another illustration that cultural relativism is truly evil and can only lead to the ultimate distruction of liberal democracy. Free societies are so afraid to just call something “wrong,” they are allowing their freedom of thought and speech to be used to, ironically, destroy free thought and speech.

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By: Stardust http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/03/10/the-un-vs-right-to-blaspheme/comment-page-1/#comment-416017 Stardust Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:44:39 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5696#comment-416017 Geoff, every day is Defamation of Religion day as far as I am concerned. LOL! Maybe we should start another category here for "Blasphemy" ? Geoff, every day is Defamation of Religion day as far as I am concerned. LOL!

Maybe we should start another category here for “Blasphemy” ?

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By: Geoff http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/03/10/the-un-vs-right-to-blaspheme/comment-page-1/#comment-415994 Geoff Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:11:17 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5696#comment-415994 Can we make today the official "Defamation of religion" day? Can we make today the official “Defamation of religion” day?

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By: ChuckA http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/03/10/the-un-vs-right-to-blaspheme/comment-page-1/#comment-415988 ChuckA Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:57:55 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5696#comment-415988 A couple of things immediately come to mind RE this situation; which, I'll admit, are not, at this point (d'uh!), probably even practical. Yeah...pie in the proverbial sky that absolutely "ain't gonna happen". What the hell; no harm making suggestions...roit? [Humor me?] 1) Have some people like Hitchens, etc., address...perhaps even debate(?)...these deluded clowns at the UN. Hype it up, big time, on as many media outlets as possible. Broadcast, worldwide of course, on...CNN & Al Jazeera (sounds like a guys name!)...for "all" to see. In other words, make fools of these medieval idiots 2) This issue makes the getting off...TOTALLY...buying ANY oil from Islamic countries more important than ever. In essence, end, completely, any and all financial support of non-democratic governments. AND DEFINITELY...get the hell out of Iraq and Afghanistan...for good! When are we gonna learn what the Russians learned back in the1980s? [And what is the US doing, being the self-appointed, arrogant, "Policemen of the World", anyway?] Speaking of Iraq...and Afghanistan...How the fuck long does it take to train these tribal level morons to do what American soldiers are taught to do...what!...in Boot camp? I know I'm being very simplistic; but these tribal idiots will never stop killing each other until they drop their belifs, throw all their Korans into dumpsters, and finally have a multi-national "Fuck that long dead & rotted, moronic, psychotic, pedophile asshole, Mo-hammered" bonfire party. Oh wait!...We'd still have all the Born-again, Creationist, Bible idiots! What to do?...what to do?... OK...Make it a "Burn every fucking Holy Scripture EVER written in the World" Day!... Or better yet...to avoid polluting the atmosphere with more CO2... a "World-wide Recycle All Religious Claptrap Day" Turn them, perhaps, into something useful... like Porn? :shock: What's that, GifSters?..."Total Delusional Futility"; thy name is... ChuckA?" "Somehow (I'm channeling Hoffy?); I think youse guys are right!" A couple of things immediately come to mind RE this situation; which, I’ll admit, are not, at this point (d’uh!), probably even practical. Yeah…pie in the proverbial sky that absolutely “ain’t gonna happen”.
What the hell; no harm making suggestions…roit? [Humor me?]
1) Have some people like Hitchens, etc., address…perhaps even debate(?)…these deluded clowns at the UN. Hype it up, big time, on as many media outlets as possible. Broadcast, worldwide of course, on…CNN & Al Jazeera (sounds like a guys name!)…for “all” to see. In other words, make fools of these medieval idiots
2) This issue makes the getting off…TOTALLY…buying ANY oil from Islamic countries more important than ever. In essence, end, completely, any and all financial support of non-democratic governments. AND DEFINITELY…get the hell out of Iraq and Afghanistan…for good!
When are we gonna learn what the Russians learned back in the1980s?
[And what is the US doing, being the self-appointed, arrogant, "Policemen of the World", anyway?]

Speaking of Iraq…and Afghanistan…How the fuck long does it take to train these tribal level morons to do what American soldiers are taught to do…what!…in Boot camp? I know I’m being very simplistic; but these tribal idiots will never stop killing each other until they drop their belifs, throw all their Korans into dumpsters, and finally have a multi-national “Fuck that long dead & rotted, moronic, psychotic, pedophile asshole, Mo-hammered” bonfire party.
Oh wait!…We’d still have all the Born-again, Creationist, Bible idiots!
What to do?…what to do?…
OK…Make it a “Burn every fucking Holy Scripture EVER written in the World” Day!…
Or better yet…to avoid polluting the atmosphere with more CO2…
a “World-wide Recycle All Religious Claptrap Day”
Turn them, perhaps, into something useful…
like Porn? :shock:
What’s that, GifSters?…”Total Delusional Futility”; thy name is…
ChuckA?”
“Somehow (I’m channeling Hoffy?); I think youse guys are right!”

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