Comments on: “Crosses to bear” http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/02/26/5595/ THIS BLOG IS NO LONGER ACTIVE. We've retired this blog, but the GifS gang is now active at Atheist Oasis (atheistoasis.wordpress.com). Visit us there! Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:44:32 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: cry4turtles http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/02/26/5595/comment-page-1/#comment-415285 cry4turtles Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:13:33 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5595#comment-415285 Lynda, They call that "John Wayne Toilet Paper". It don't take no shit. <blockquote>To find true happiness in troubled relationships, we must allow these people to crucify us.</blockquote> Sounds like Offspring's "Self Esteem"... "The more you suffer, the more it shows you really care, right? Yeah!" Lynda,

They call that “John Wayne Toilet Paper”. It don’t take no shit.

To find true happiness in troubled relationships, we must allow these people to crucify us.

Sounds like Offspring’s “Self Esteem”…

“The more you suffer, the more it shows you really care, right? Yeah!”

]]> By: Lynda http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/02/26/5595/comment-page-1/#comment-415223 Lynda Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:08:14 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5595#comment-415223 <i>”Allah willing, I won’t poke my finger through the toilet paper, when wiping my arse”</i> LOL! Oh, that's why my cheap toilet tissue keeps disintegrating during my morning constitutional. Allah wills it. Makes perfect sense now! <i>perceiving a “Tiny Crack in the Cosmic Egg”; which then may eventually lead to the oh-so gradual dissipation of various false religious paradigms.</i> I like the imagery, ChuckA. ”Allah willing, I won’t poke my finger through the toilet paper, when wiping my arse”
LOL! Oh, that’s why my cheap toilet tissue keeps disintegrating during my morning constitutional. Allah wills it. Makes perfect sense now!

perceiving a “Tiny Crack in the Cosmic Egg”; which then may eventually lead to the oh-so gradual dissipation of various false religious paradigms.

I like the imagery, ChuckA.

]]> By: ChuckA http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/02/26/5595/comment-page-1/#comment-415181 ChuckA Sat, 28 Feb 2009 06:08:03 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5595#comment-415181 ^ "Just exactly how does this god do it all?" [ala George Hamilton as Dracula?: "Do What?"] Well Stardust...It's way beyond our puny, earthly, mortal, comprehension, doncha-know. Of course, the 'Buybull' and 'Who-ran' are obviously "Kindergarten Cosmologies"; and as I like to refer to their contents... "Amazing DIS-grace!" [A tune, incidentally (the original title, of course), which bugs me even more than that old lame "Satchmo" pop tune: "(It's a) Wonderful World".] You know the lyric, ending in... "...and I said to myself... What the fuck's goin' on?"...or perhaps... "Why the fuck am I here?" Hmmm... I just might do a multi-track recording of that, sometime...in honor, perhaps, of George "Oort Cloud" Carlin? ;) Speaking of the "Oort Cloud"...[I know; rather OT...however]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oort_cloud ^ “Just exactly how does this god do it all?”
[ala George Hamilton as Dracula?: "Do What?"]

Well Stardust…It’s way beyond our puny, earthly, mortal, comprehension, doncha-know.
Of course, the ‘Buybull’ and ‘Who-ran’ are obviously “Kindergarten Cosmologies”; and as I like to refer to their contents…
“Amazing DIS-grace!”
[A tune, incidentally (the original title, of course), which bugs me even more than that old lame "Satchmo" pop tune:
"(It's a) Wonderful World".]
You know the lyric, ending in…
“…and I said to myself…
What the fuck’s goin’ on?”…or perhaps…
“Why the fuck am I here?”
Hmmm…
I just might do a multi-track recording of that, sometime…in honor, perhaps, of George “Oort Cloud” Carlin? ;)
Speaking of the “Oort Cloud”…[I know; rather OT...however]:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oort_cloud

]]> By: Stardust http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/02/26/5595/comment-page-1/#comment-415139 Stardust Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:01:38 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5595#comment-415139 <i>Bottom-line, in an Almighty, Tyrannical deity scenario…no matter what…we’re wrong, everything we do merits absolutely nothing, including everything Doctors, etc. do…you name it…and everything perceived in any way as wrong is totally OUR fault.</i> Yep, Chuck, it's all our fault when things go wrong. This is a bit off the topic, but I still have never heard a believer explain how this god manages to know "every hair on every head" of billions of people, past, present and future and keeps track of billions of illnesses, surgeries, sporting events, baptisms, marriage ceremonies, etc. Billions and billions of people with billions upon billions of problems..and that's just some of it! High school football games, sporting events of all kinds school, minor league and pro. Talent shows, auditions, sailboat races, hot dog eating contests, beauty contests, and on and on and on. Just exactly how does this god do it all? No believer is able to explain how god keeps track of everything from a teeny tiny hangnail on your teeny tiny chihuahua dog's little toe, to guiding cruise missiles that will destroy enemies of each god believing country who think the great sky general is on their side. Ludicrous, just ludicrous! Bottom-line, in an Almighty, Tyrannical deity scenario…no matter what…we’re wrong, everything we do merits absolutely nothing, including everything Doctors, etc. do…you name it…and everything perceived in any way as wrong is totally OUR fault.

Yep, Chuck, it’s all our fault when things go wrong.

This is a bit off the topic, but I still have never heard a believer explain how this god manages to know “every hair on every head” of billions of people, past, present and future and keeps track of billions of illnesses, surgeries, sporting events, baptisms, marriage ceremonies, etc. Billions and billions of people with billions upon billions of problems..and that’s just some of it! High school football games, sporting events of all kinds school, minor league and pro. Talent shows, auditions, sailboat races, hot dog eating contests, beauty contests, and on and on and on. Just exactly how does this god do it all? No believer is able to explain how god keeps track of everything from a teeny tiny hangnail on your teeny tiny chihuahua dog’s little toe, to guiding cruise missiles that will destroy enemies of each god believing country who think the great sky general is on their side. Ludicrous, just ludicrous!

]]> By: ChuckA http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/02/26/5595/comment-page-1/#comment-415126 ChuckA Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:03:10 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5595#comment-415126 No matter what rational tack you take with ALL Fundies, their Gob is 'perfect', and everything that happens MUST be a part of "His" Almighty Plan...good, bad, or indifferent. "He" can't possibly be wrong or frustrated in any way. Of course, they contradict themselves all over the place with their blaming the victim jabbering of "Gob is angry, sad" etc. with what we mortals are doing; which we would immediately point out as an obvious imperfection. Actually, the Muslims seem to have a much easier time with totally accepting the "Gob willing" shtick; like..."Allah willing, I'll see you tomorrow"...or..."Allah willing, I won't poke my finger through the toilet paper, when wiping my arse"...etc. Bottom-line, in an Almighty, Tyrannical deity scenario...no matter what...we're wrong, everything we do merits absolutely nothing, including everything Doctors, etc. do...you name it...and everything perceived in any way as wrong is totally OUR fault. There is absolutely no winning with Fundies in anything approaching any kind of rational discussion...it's a total waste of time. The only hope for these folks, if any, is very much like we've all experienced in our own evolution of consciousness...the individual awakens, COMPLETELY ON THEIR OWN, to the fact that they've been brainwashed since childhood, etc. It's kinda like...metaphorically speaking...perceiving a "Tiny Crack in the Cosmic Egg"; which then may eventually lead to the oh-so gradual dissipation of various false religious paradigms. No matter what rational tack you take with ALL Fundies, their Gob is ‘perfect’, and everything that happens MUST be a part of “His” Almighty Plan…good, bad, or indifferent. “He” can’t possibly be wrong or frustrated in any way. Of course, they contradict themselves all over the place with their blaming the victim jabbering of “Gob is angry, sad” etc. with what we mortals are doing; which we would immediately point out as an obvious imperfection. Actually, the Muslims seem to have a much easier time with totally accepting the “Gob willing” shtick; like…”Allah willing, I’ll see you tomorrow”…or…”Allah willing, I won’t poke my finger through the toilet paper, when wiping my arse”…etc.
Bottom-line, in an Almighty, Tyrannical deity scenario…no matter what…we’re wrong, everything we do merits absolutely nothing, including everything Doctors, etc. do…you name it…and everything perceived in any way as wrong is totally OUR fault.
There is absolutely no winning with Fundies in anything approaching any kind of rational discussion…it’s a total waste of time. The only hope for these folks, if any, is very much like we’ve all experienced in our own evolution of consciousness…the individual awakens, COMPLETELY ON THEIR OWN, to the fact that they’ve been brainwashed since childhood, etc.
It’s kinda like…metaphorically speaking…perceiving a “Tiny Crack in the Cosmic Egg”; which then may eventually lead to the oh-so gradual dissipation of various false religious paradigms.

]]> By: Stardust http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/02/26/5595/comment-page-1/#comment-415125 Stardust Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:43:17 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5595#comment-415125 <i>Recognize that your desire for other people to change is a sin. </i> ^^Lynda, you said in your comment above what I immediately thought of to say, that witnessing to people and trying to change their lives is a sin. Telling us to change from the atheists and to get us on the god wagon is sinful. Shame on them! Their whole website, by their own standards, is sinful. Recognize that your desire for other people to change is a sin.

^^Lynda, you said in your comment above what I immediately thought of to say, that witnessing to people and trying to change their lives is a sin. Telling us to change from the atheists and to get us on the god wagon is sinful. Shame on them! Their whole website, by their own standards, is sinful.

]]> By: Lynda http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/02/26/5595/comment-page-1/#comment-415124 Lynda Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:39:23 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5595#comment-415124 Here's another sin that I don't remember ever reading about in the Babble: <i>Recognize that your desire for other people to change is a sin. </i> This should work for you when they try to change your views on gawd. Remind them that their desire to have you become a xian is a sin. Ha ha.... Gee, one really has to be double-jointed to manage the mental gymnastics. Here’s another sin that I don’t remember ever reading about in the Babble: Recognize that your desire for other people to change is a sin. This should work for you when they try to change your views on gawd. Remind them that their desire to have you become a xian is a sin. Ha ha…. Gee, one really has to be double-jointed to manage the mental gymnastics.

]]> By: Stardust http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2009/02/26/5595/comment-page-1/#comment-415122 Stardust Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:05:28 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=5595#comment-415122 <i>Thou shalt not get frustrated. Since when was that a sin? </i> This explains the reason my sister's new husband (though he is a very nice person who does nice things for my elderly parents, etc.) he behaves so much like an android..he doesn't get excited, he is very prim and proper, and they both are fundie Xians. I've never seen him laugh out loud or even crack a big smile, and she says when he gets angry or upset he just goes into his office for awhile. I never thought about them thinking that getting good and pissed-off frustrated is a sin! Thou shalt not get frustrated. Since when was that a sin?

This explains the reason my sister’s new husband (though he is a very nice person who does nice things for my elderly parents, etc.) he behaves so much like an android..he doesn’t get excited, he is very prim and proper, and they both are fundie Xians. I’ve never seen him laugh out loud or even crack a big smile, and she says when he gets angry or upset he just goes into his office for awhile. I never thought about them thinking that getting good and pissed-off frustrated is a sin!

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