Comments on: Stand Fast, Stay Strong

By: cole the troll

cole the troll — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:08:20 +0000

this is the lousiest site in the universe you should be ashamed

From the moderators…sorry kid, free speech and all that.

You should be ashamed of needing an imaginary friend and not questioning what your uneducated pastors tell you. (They are duping you to keep you in the flock and to keep taking your money by scaring you into believing a myth is real.) Find yourself from a plank of wood in the middle of the vast ocean and no help comes unless humans come by on a freighter or something. THINK about it.

By: Julie

Julie — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:48:41 +0000

Wow, it’s really not all that big of a deal. We’re out and open on campus, and we’ve received some negative reactions, but for the most part people either love what we’re doing, respect our right to do it, or just ignore us. Those few Fundies who just can’t let it go are content to just stick around and badger us with what they think are insightful, tough to answer questions until we get bored and sick our resident anarchist/anti-theist on them and they skidaddle.

By: Lynda

Lynda — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:22:14 +0000

JJR,
Yes, the gun registry is a ridiculous waste of tax payers money! However, one can buy a gun in Canada if one is wanted. It may be more difficult to obtain one than in the USA, but the requirements to firearms ownership here seem as legitimate as proving one can drive a car before getting a driver’s license. We haven’t been denied the “right” to own guns. However, there are very few occasions when human self-defense requires a gun. Living in an environment where a gun is not necessary is true freedom.

ChuckA,
I figured you were just borrowing those words from Patrick. The point I was attempting to make by referring to his whole speech is that this type of thinking about liberty might not be based on the most logical reasoning. It seems to be that the idea of giving up one’s life for idealistic points of view about rights and freedoms usually fits too well into religious thinking. This makes me seriously question its validity.
And I’ve thought about whether ending my life would be preferable over living in excruciating pain too. A few years ago I was miserably ill and felt like I would prefer to crawl under a tree, close my eyes and just sleep forever. But today I think, any consciousness is preferable to nothingness.

By: jimmer

jimmer — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:58:29 +0000

Julie
Kudos to you and your mates on your activism. Just be cautious about your goings and be aware that all of these christers are taught that they are in the right and may cause you violence. I hope you never need to address that issue. Just remember that when vioilence is the answer, it is the only answer. Get training if you need it or at least keep yourself in good numbers of folks to resist the thugs when needed.

By: Julie

Julie — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:31:19 +0000

JJR: If you’re going to quote Whedon, do it right. Mal technically shoots him in the chest multiple times during that exchange.

By: ChuckA

ChuckA — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:39:24 +0000

Actually, Lynda, I was just randomly borrowing old Patrick Henry’s famous words; not really analogizing them to any particular patriotic agenda. To be honest (and with tongue firmly in cheek), my only truly unambiguous reason for choosing death would be some state of intolerable physical pain…from some unforeseen accident, or some, unalterable, painful, terminal disease.

By: Lynda

Lynda — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:29:47 +0000

Very thoughtful article at Humanism Today by Sherwin Twine entitled: Humanism and Freedom
http://www.humanismtoday.org/vol4/wine.pdf

By: JJR

JJR — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:34:28 +0000

I’ll admit to being mainly a laissez-faire Atheist, and would only join a cause if I perceived my *own* interests directly threatened. I also let my theist friends express their silly beliefs without comment (they can’t see me roll my eyes over the Internet). Some of the things they say do piss me off, and I may rant about it anonymously elsewhere online, or in the company of fellow atheists. If Muslim student organizations want to live by Sharia law for themselves, fine…if they want to impose it on everyone else, they should be told to “get bent”.

Lynda mentioned in passing:
“…Charter of Rights and Freedoms that stands up very well* against the US Constitutional guarantees,”

*except for the 2nd Amendment. Canadian Gun control laws suck, which is why I send $$ to the National Firearms Association of Canada (www.nfa.ca) and get their magazine, even though I live in Texas.
It’s appallingly difficult to obtain a concealed carry permit in Canada, and don’t even get me started on your National firearms registry farce.

I am a Left-winger, actually, and I deeply admire (and feel envious of) Canada’s single-payer health care system, but I take human self-defense rights very seriously.

Me, I always like the lines from Serenity:

The Operative: “Is that something you’re willing to die for?”

Mal: “Yes”
(catches the Operative off guard and fights him off)
“…though that ain’t exactly Plan A”