Obama spiritual mentor preaching politics from the pulpit
14 March 2008 by StardustI’m probably going to stir up the hornets nest again, but needed to show this in case people haven’t seen it. If I was Obama, I would quit this church and stay as far away from it as possible just as he renounced Louis Farrakhan. It’s disturbing to me that a man who says he wants to be a “uniter” supports such a church that seems to be doing little to bring people of different races together, and this pastor is crossing the line when he uses the tax exempt podium to preach his political “sermons” in support of one candidate while tearing down another, and all the rest who were once candidates.
Rev Wright says that Hillary has never been accused by “her own people” for not being white enough. “Her own people” ? I haven’t heard her talk about only serving her “own people” or putting rich corporate America before the needs of poor black Americans. However, I have had some people in my own WHITE family tell me they would never vote for Hillary because a woman does not belong in the Presidency. Most white evangelicals feel a woman has no place as a leader of a nation and should be home washing her husband’s underwear. And let’s not forget…Hillary is trailing and it will take some sort of “miracle” for her to win this nomination.
Hillary and campaigners cannot say anything at all about one’s race, but it is okay for Obama supporters like Wright to bash white people and campaign for a political candidate from the tax free pulpit. Another thing that disturbs me is that Obama seems to be above criticism. All too often, when someone criticizes or questions the Obamessiah, they are accused of being racist. People who oppose Obama must have a team of speech editors to make sure that nothing can be misconstrued as racist.
Getting back to the subject of Rev. Wright, Obama says he doesn’t agree with everything his church pastors say, but how can he be a uniter while remaining loyal to a church that does not promote unity?
Oh…and Jeeezus was a poor black man. Rev Wright conveniently overlooks the fact that Obama has a 1.6 million dollar home and is indeed quite “privileged”.Obama is far from poor.
(O/T: I don’t know how people can sit in a church pew and be screamed at by idiots like this.)
Update…the original video I posted had been taken down at YouTube, so I found this one. I don’t know how long it will be before this one is removed, also. The quality of this one isn’t as good, but whatareyagonnado?
14 March 2008, on 10:07 am
I won’t watch it. I’ve read a transcript. I find shit like this more offensive than porn.
The religious aspects of the campaign disgust me.
I mean check the chuckleheads that mcstain is buddying up to!!
The term ‘holy shit’ never made so much sense.
This preacher is just like every other preacher. He’s just another herder of sheeple. All of them preach hate of one kind or another, his is specific to race.
Obama shouldn’t let an idiot like this be part of his campaign but he will. Just like they all do.
14 March 2008, on 10:15 am
I hope the Dems are learning that you should keep your religion out of politics!!! Obama brings this on himself every time he mentions how important his faith is to him and tries to pass himself off as a god-fearing good ol’ American Christian. When you start putting your religion out there and using it as part of your campaign strategy, then as far as I’m concerned, it is fair game for criticism.
I have been really disappointed with how much Obama and Clinton have been pandering to the religious during their campaigns. Of course, McCain has his own problems with religious wackjobs too, so it will probably even out in the end.
14 March 2008, on 10:31 am
I have been really disappointed with how much Obama and Clinton have been pandering to the religious during their campaigns. Of course, McCain has his own problems with religious wackjobs too, so it will probably even out in the end.
Bruce, I am too. I am debating on either staying home in November or writing in Mick E. Mouse.
All this religious shit is pissing me off. We expect it from the Rethuglicans, but not from Dems.
I knew that “racism” was going to be called every time someone criticizes Obama. Since he belongs to a black separatist church, we white people, and people of other races would like to know what exactly Obama finds so attractive about his church, how far do his loyalties to his church go, and how much he is dedicated to “his own people”. We are looking for unity, not “turning the tables”. I have heard several black people say “It’s our turn now!” Well, I am glad to see that America is losing it’s bigotry and discrimination of black people, and I want a candidate who is qualified and can do the job, not someone who is going to be only for one group of people. Obama’s affiliation with this church make me question if he indeed is going to be for all people of this nation.
14 March 2008, on 10:31 am
Yuck, I read about this earlier. It makes my skin crawl.
Obama always likes to call himself a uniter. But he willingly puts himself in this church, and has done so for the past 20 years. This preacher is obviously not for unity. Obama’s even praised this guy before, and he named his book after a sermon that he gave.
This really makes me a bit weary of voting for him in November. But in the end, I’d much rather have him than Insane McCain.
*sigh* What the hell has America come to? Was it always like this?
14 March 2008, on 10:38 am
What the hell has America come to? Was it always like this?
It gets worse with each election. I have been voting since 1972 and our choices get worse, and worse, and worse. Back when I was a young voter, I don’t remember any of this religious crap. We knew Nixon was a Quaker and that was it, Carter was a Baptist and that was it. Religion wasn’t the focal point of the campaign.
14 March 2008, on 10:52 am
I’m going to make a prediction here. Because of this tape, if Obama wins the Democratic primary, he will lose to McInsane in November. This vid will show up everywhere. It is a great scare ad that won’t need any narration or editing.
Game. Set. Match.
14 March 2008, on 10:54 am
By the way, this is the America you get when you blur the separation of church and state. Be sure to congratulate your fundie friends for ultimately undermining freedom, civil rights, and democracy.
14 March 2008, on 12:09 pm
Jesus fucking christ, people. Obama’s church is in the black community and their mission is to make their community a better place. Yes, the minister is a whackjob but which one isn’t? And I don’t know about you but I’ve used the phrase “audacity of hope” because in this day and age it’s become a truism- and I’ve never met that minister. Am I in his thrall, too? Fuck, man, y’all are sounding like that atheist woman posted about a while back who wants to take her ball and go home because none of the candidates are dyed in the wool atheists who scorn all religion. Do you live in the same time and space I do? That little utopia is still a long way off- though we’re headed in the right direction, I think. At this particular moment- assuming you’re not Repugnantklans- it is your duty to vote for whichever one of these two less than perfect candidates ends up running because either one of them is still a walk in the park next to the miles of bad road called McCain. And he’s not even a particularly rancid example of the Imaginary Friend Party himself.
I mean, gott-damn, it’d be fucking awesome if Obama- or Clinton- stood up and said “all you godbothering motherfuckers are insane and my first act as president will be to revise the DSM-IV to include Adult Imaginary Friend Syndrome(AIFS), making it possible for shrinks and GPs everywhere to place ministers on involuntary 72 hour holds. Telthon in three, two, one…” but they might as well blow their brains out on the fancy backdrop at the dais for the suicide it would be politically.
Come on, we’ve had four(Dawkins, Harris, Dennett, Hitchens) atheist best sellers in the past eighteen months or so. That couldn’t have happened even a decade ago. Baby steps, people.
I’m Barack Obama and I
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Obama’s church is in the black community and their mission is to make their community a better place. Yes, the minister is a whackjob but which one isn’t?
RDZ, I understand your loyalty since you are working for the Obama campaign, but the question remains, how can Obama support a black separatist church and look up to this “whackjob” as his mentor, and yet call himself a uniter? Obama’s whacky church and religious beliefs makes Bush’s Methodist church seem ultra-liberal.
If Barack were a republican you would be all over his ass. Just because he happens to be a liberal candidate and a black candidate does not make him some kind of messiah of the people. He is using Regan-style propaganda to get himself elected. He is no messiah, he is simply another politician using pretty rhetoric to get elected.
14 March 2008, on 12:48 pm
I’m going to make a prediction here. Because of this tape, if Obama wins the Democratic primary, he will lose to McInsane in November.
It won’t be merely because of this one tape, either. A lot of other things are going to come out about Obama if he is the nominee and I am not sure he is going to be able to defend himself. He is not the “pristine” savior that his supporters make him out to be.
it is your duty to vote for whichever one of these two less than perfect candidates ends up running because either one of them is still a walk in the park next to the miles of bad road called McCain.
I will most likely exercise my duty to vote and vote third party this time. If enough people would vote third party and show our displeasure, that would be the beginning of real change.
14 March 2008, on 2:14 pm
If you think you opened a can of hornets with this kind of preaching, I can do it with one word. One simple little word that is not ever used to blow down the noise made by preachers of this cloth. A word that if you read history, shows the plight of poor, under privileged white folks.
Irish
Here come the hornets!
14 March 2008, on 2:53 pm
Regarding Obama being a rich man, are there any politicians that aren’t in the wealthiest, say, 5% or even 1%? I would venture a guess that a poor person would have a very hard time getting elected to anything higher than mayor.
Obama might not even be considered wealthy compared to other politicians (sorry I have no citations for any of this). How sad and strange is that?
14 March 2008, on 3:05 pm
Regarding Obama being a rich man, are there any politicians that aren’t in the wealthiest, say, 5% or even 1%?
There is little chance of anyone being able to run for office in this country withoug being wealthy. Granted, Obama isn’t as wealthy as many other politicians, but he is not the epitome of a “poor black messiah” that his pastor makes him out to be. Even growing up, he was raised in a middle class home by educated parents, and they were far from poor. He attended the best universities and had many opportunities that a truly poor black or white or hispanic person does not have.
I will concede that Obama has worked as Director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago, helping low-income residents in Chicago’s Roseland community and the Altgeld Gardens public housing development for awhile, but that is as close to the poor as he has gotten.
14 March 2008, on 3:16 pm
Here’s another video of Rev. Wright from 2003.
How are this and the one presented above not examples of using the pulpit as a political soapbox?
14 March 2008, on 3:50 pm
Thanks for that link, Karen. I can’t understand why Obama has renounced Farakan, but considers this crazy ass pastor as a “mentor”. Rev Wright is not only, as Obama says “like an old uncle who I don’t always agree with”, he is representative of the whole mindset of the church he led for many years. We would not allow a Rethuglican to just blow this off, and we should not just blow it off for Dems either. I feel the same exact way about McCain embracing the endorsement of crazy fundie Hagee.
14 March 2008, on 7:25 pm
Barack Obama is hardly perfect. No one- other than the weirdos fainting at his events- is saying so. The minister is a demented fuckwit who’s foot is in his mouth as much as it is on the ground. But Wright is not running for president and everything I’ve heard and read from the Senator leads me to believe he knows the place for religion- of whatever stripe- is in the churches or in the homes but most decidedly not in government.
Honestly, I’ll gladly vote for either he or Sen. Clinton come November, though her attitude since losing in Iowa has left many questions about her maturity- the whole thing has smacked of “this is my time to be president, how dare you interfere with my coronation?” to me.
As an aside, the whole notion of “black separatism” as a perjorative is flawed. What other course does a minority group that’s been first legally and, then, societally disenfranchised, continuing up to today- though today’s racism is sotto voce(and perhaps more insidious, have but to band together and look out for themselves first? Who else is gonna do it? You hear these contrarian whites bellyaching about starting up some white person’s advancement league or heritage society without realizing that the western world, for the most part, is a white person’s advancement league and heritage society. The “separatism” is a defense. It’s only been a couple generations since Emmett Till and Jim Crow. Things are not all better now.
Again, not to excuse the fucktard reverend or defend Obama’s relationship with him.
14 March 2008, on 7:46 pm
Honestly, I’ll gladly vote for either he or Sen. Clinton come November, though her attitude since losing in Iowa has left many questions about her maturity- the whole thing has smacked of “this is my time to be president, how dare you interfere with my coronation?” to me.
RDZ, I hear ya on that one too…Queen Hillary, the crying stuff bugged me too because she’s a tough woman and that was just a ploy to show her “caring” side. She’s been trying everything and making herself look like a psychomaniac.
I will still like to know though how I can be sure that Barack will be working for me, as well as people of all races. Most of the black people I have talked to think that Barack has come around to work for them alone. Saying stuff like “it’s our time now” makes me think that it’s a “tables have turned” thing and that just turns me off. It’s the same thing as Hillary and “it’s my time to be president” attitude.
The “separatism” is a defense.
No, things are not 100% better for minorities in general, including women, but Barack is claiming to be the “grand uniter” while still belonging to and supporting a church that separates itself in the year 2008. This church’s rhetoric is radical…too unnecessarily radical in this day and age of trying to bring people together, and that concerns me. Barack is uncomfortable with the rhetoric of this church and how it will affect his campaign, so why does he not denounce this church and move on?
I will have to see how things progress, how Barack handles the upcoming issues (including personal ones) that are going to surface as the campaign continues.
14 March 2008, on 8:06 pm
Well, here’s a start
Obama denounces pastor’s 9/11 comments
Maybe this is one step before denouncing that whole divisive church he belongs to. (It would be too much to hope he would also dump the divisive religion.)
It would be better for all these politicians to go back to keeping their religion as a private matter and leave their pastors, Jeebus and their god out of it.
14 March 2008, on 8:43 pm
And the Rethuglican fearmongering has already started
McCain fears stepped up attacks in Iraq
14 March 2008, on 9:19 pm
Um…the video is no longer available. Is there another link to this video?
14 March 2008, on 9:38 pm
Fritzy…I got another one but the quality isn’t as good. But you can still hear it. I don’t know how long this one will remain since someone seems to be frantically cleaning up for damage control.
14 March 2008, on 9:57 pm
McCain is on his way to Iraq, this weekend. Maybe he can go back to that market he visited last year. The market where something like 20 vendors got their Allah tickets punched the next day for “collaborating with the Americans”. Yeah, that John McCain, he’s a real fucking hero.
14 March 2008, on 11:55 pm
Yes Stardust…As you said:
“It would be better for all these politicians to go back to keeping their religion as a private matter and leave their pastors, Jeebus and their god out of it.”
Unfortunately, primarily due to what the Repiglicans did, pandering to the Right Wing Sky Daddy fucks, starting, particularly, with the 1980’s Reagan administration’s “Moral Majority” ‘ass tonguing’ efforts to tear down walls…I’m referring, of course, to the “Wall of Separation”…we’ve come to a time when the Dems feel the necessity to stupidly mimic that unfortunate strategy.
It’s obviously backfiring magnificently; almost like some appropriate “Instant Bad Karma” shtick!
The only good to come of all this outrageous bullshit, might be the increase in awareness of the absolute importance of Church/State Separation; and additionally, an increase in the number of skeptics and hopefully…eventually…more freethinking atheists. [I know...Dream on!]
Is it, now, perhaps, OK for us…the most hated, as infidels…to proudly state…
(ala ‘Tickled pink, and proud as Punch’, of course!):
“We told you so…Assholes! But would you listen?…
NO!”
15 March 2008, on 10:01 am
Stardust – Obama is just a politician, having his “rich white man” aides at his side telling him to ditch the crazy pastor. This doesn’t mean he isn’t still chummy chums with this guy or doesn’t believe in the crap. It just means he is trying to make himself look better by ditching this guy so he can win the Dem nomination. Why did he even go to this guys church in the first place and bring this guy along? (ummm crackhead?) He wrote a friggin book based off of the guy’s sermon!! It’s all political strategy, and Obama is just doing this to lessen the heat and say “look I got rid of the crazy pastor, I’m still a uniter!” Bullshit, I still won’t vote for that fascist low-life criminal loving hack. I’d rather vote for Mick E. Mouse…
Oh, and I doubt this media buzz causing him to ditch this guy makes him any LESS of a fundie.
15 March 2008, on 12:20 pm
Stardust wrote: I will most likely exercise my duty to vote and vote third party this time.
I understand your frustration with Obama, but I think this is a bad move. Obama would still be much better than McCain and no third party candidate has a shot at the White House this November. I don’t know about you, but I really cannot take another 4 years of Bush in the White House and that is exactly what it will be like if McCain is elected. For the good of the country, you really have to vote for Obama this time. Just think of it as your patriotic duty
15 March 2008, on 4:28 pm
Bruce, but if we keep voting the same way, for either or of the two-party system, things will never ever change and we will be stuck in the two-party rut forever…or maybe the one party rut when Dems keep losing, and losing and losing.
A third party never has a shot because everyone has this kind of two-party, black or white, either-or kind of thinking. Even if 15% of us would vote 3rd party, that would be a huge statement of our dissatisfaction with the lame candidates we have to choose from. I am sick of being stuck with crappy choices in a two-party system that we have created for ourselves.
Voting for Obama is not guaranteeing that it will do any more good for my country. Nothing at all is going to change. Change is just a slogan on his campaign posters to “inspire” but in the long run, means nothing will change. In fact, I am fairly positive that everyone who votes for him will be greatly disappointed when they finally realize that all he has is a bunch of fancy rhetoric. I have seen this before with Ronnie Reagan.
15 March 2008, on 4:48 pm
Also, I want to say I voted for Hillary in the primary, though I am not thrilled with her, either. But now since the Illinois primaries and as the campaigning goes on, my disgust with all the candidates we have to choose from has grown.
It’s still early. I have to see how things progress.
15 March 2008, on 9:47 pm
Stardust, maybe we are just not ready for a third party yet? It is regretful, but, it may also be worthwhile to consider at this point in time that many of the people wanting that particular alternative will come from the camp of left-leaners. Unless you count militias. And I don’t think they vote.
We remember 2000. Nader received just over 1,000,000 votes that many pundits hypothesized would have gone to Gore. And we all know how that turned out.
I agree with you that none of these candidates are perfect; we, at this point have to calculate the least of all evils with which we are presented.
Even though Nader always wears his seatbelt, he is in his 70s…
15 March 2008, on 10:35 pm
it may also be worthwhile to consider at this point in time that many of the people wanting that particular alternative will come from the camp of left-leaners.
good point
16 March 2008, on 12:53 am
Enough people in Florida voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 to give the presidency to Bush. You could even argue that Ross Perot split the conservative vote enough to give Clinton a win.
I agree that partisan politics is the *bane* of how things are done. And I would love to see third (and fourth, and fifth) parties competing equally. Unfortunately, the current election system we have does *not* fit third party candidates. They serve less as agents of change, and more as spoilers.
16 March 2008, on 9:54 am
The problem with starting a third party is that it is virtually impossible. Many states have strict ballot access requirements. To get a nationwide third party going, you literally need several million committed people from the get go. Then there is always the risk that once you start making headway, one of the other parties will try to co-opt you.
Where a third party is more feasible is on a regional level, say an issue that affects people in a certain part of the country. Such a party is more likely to be unified and have a coherent message.
16 March 2008, on 9:58 am
To build on what Sargoth wrote above, he is right that third party candidates tend to play the role of spoiler, because we have a winner take all system. In some countries with parliamentary systems, seats are awarded based on the percentage of votes each party gets. So if your third party gets only 5% of the vote, it will get 5% of the seats, whereas in the United States it will get nothing.
One of the problems with the parliamentary system is that you can get extremists who can get some of their agenda enacted by forming coalitions with the larger party. An example of this is the ultra Orthodox Shas party in Israel. In a coalition government, they wield influence far beyond their numbers because they can always threaten to leave the coalition if the Prime Minister does not give them x, y and z.
16 March 2008, on 10:57 am
It’s the way the system works, Nader, even though he got 1,000,000 votes in 2000, STILL Gore won the popular vote by 500,000 votes… but the way the system works, he lost… (plus the whole Bushy stole the election yay) So no, I don’t think Nader is a threat, and I won’t vote for his dumbass cause he’s pretty insane himself. I’d vote for Al Gore if he ran again though, I really like him! Unfortunately, and fortunately
he is on to other more productive things than trying to win the candidacy… which he technically won once already…
16 March 2008, on 1:01 pm
Well, whether Obama is elected or not, I still stand by my prediction that nothing is going to change. He hasn’t been clear on what he is going to change, how he is going to change whatever, and the effects of those changes, how much new programs will cost, which ones he would cut out, etc. People say he has “vision”…well, every candidate has a vision. That’s just another weasel word to woo us. I think people are looking to Obama like he is some sort of magic man who is going to perform miracles. He is just another politician who happens to be a charismatic speaker, like Reagan and in reality he hasn’t any real feasible plans, and as many skeletons in his closet as all the rest. People are going to be greatly disappointed.
I don’t want the Republicans to win. So I may be forced to vote for whoever the opposition is, but that doesn’t mean I will like the choice I have to make. Like many others, I am not at all happy with ANY of the choices this time around. None.
16 March 2008, on 8:37 pm
Check out Karen’s link at comment 14 if you browsed over it.
That’s right “Goddamn America”. And this guy was on Obama’s “Spiritual Advisory Commitee”. This country has problems, but come on… where is the apprecaition and gratitude for living in a country with such vast resources and opportunity? I am not out there shouting “We’re number One!” or chanting “USA, USA”. But I do appreciate the fact that while billions of people are without necessities, I am fortunate to live where I do. Inequalities in the world will not be cured by this unappreciative hatred.
For this charlatan to parasitize the system while cheating on already accomidating tax laws is bad enough, but for him to go further and rile up anti american racist sentiment does very real damage to our society.
I would like to thank Raindogzilla and Bruce for telling me that it is my duty to vote for Obama if he gets the nomination. Where would our democracy be today without brave souls emphasizing collectivist ideas and outright telling people who to vote for. Maybe the Obama campaign should adopt whole concept of voting for Barrack out of “duty”.
The popular vote totals to date excluding Michigan and Florida are 49.5% to 46.9%. It seems like opensecrets.org may be laggin behind on the contributions totals… I’d like to do some more delving into Obama’s nuclear industry money…
Not all churches openly preach separation and hatred. I am an atheist and always will be, but I must acknowledge that there are some denominations who meet in modest temples and preach acceptance. Obama’s church is extremist.
Obama was born to a “white” mother and a “black” father. The “black” father abandoned and the “white” mother raised him. Yet Obama lets himself be considered as part of the “black” community. I coulnd’t help but notice the light skin tone of this preacher… Isn’t it wrong to try to exploit a part of one’s heritage? To exploit the sufferings of a portion of one’s ancestors for one’s own gain? I would like someone to explain to me how calling something a “black community” and then justifying the preaching of separation on basis of skin tone is not being a collectivist/ racist.
17 March 2008, on 1:29 am
Where would our democracy be today without brave souls emphasizing collectivist ideas and outright telling people who to vote for. Maybe the Obama campaign should adopt whole concept of voting for Barrack out of “duty”.
OJD, I don’t really like being told who to vote for,either. I have not heard anyone give any reason to vote for Obama except to keep the Rethuglicans from winning. Most people I talk to who say they are voting for him don’t even know where he stands on anything. They don’t know anything except he is going to “bring hope” and “has vision”. Sounds like everyone is accepting him on “faith” to “save them.” It’s sort of like a religious hope.
I don’t feel that Obama is going to deliver on the miracles everyone is expecting him to perform. I don’t feel he is going to be able to stand up to the scrutiny of the Rethuglican party once they start pulling his skeletons out of the closet.
Obama was raised in a comfortable middle class home. He had all the advantages I never had growing up. He doesn’t know what it’s like to be poor. He doesn’t know what it’s like to have one can of vegetables for a family of five for dinner and potatoes as the main course. He didn’t live in a trailer and have to share a bed with two siblings. So I resent anyone exploiting the poor for their own gain. Barack is just another politician doing what he needs to do to try to get elected. If his supporters are saying these things false things about him being a poor black child, he isn’t saying anything to correct those statements.
Obama went to the best schools, has a life now that is far above middle class. While he is a good role model to look up to, he didn’t have to climb up to where he is from where the real poor live. All this rhetoric about “poor black” is just plain propaganda. I don’t understand why people can’t see through that.
If they wanted someone who could beat the Rethuglicans, Hillary was a better choice. (Though I am not thrilled about her behavior during this campaign, at least we know what we are getting. Things were good during the Bill Clinton years and Hillary had a big part in that.) I really am having doubts if Obama can defeat McCain and the Rethuglican party. Call me cynical, but that is how I feel.
17 March 2008, on 2:33 am
Shit
I have no real decision on who i’ll vote for,
but to get to what i really want to say…
I just hope that we’ll eventually find the right person; a real David to go against the Goliath of today.
Fuck you Goliath, fuck you.
(I apologize for the use of unnecessary language in my post.)
17 March 2008, on 10:13 am
Fuck you Goliath, fuck you.
(I apologize for the use of unnecessary language in my post.)
Sean, welcome. Sometimes that kind of language is indeed necessary. Read through the other posts and even some of the titles and you will see that there are no virgin ears around here! LOL! Lots of us are fed up with our politics and discouraged that liberals just can’t seem to find the right person for the job, and can’t seem to pull together a campaign to beat Goliath. Then we’ve come to the “hope and a prayer” kind of mentality now and that disturbs me.
17 March 2008, on 2:13 pm
Yes…Welcome, Sean.
I just reminisced a bit about another, dearly missed, “GifSter” Sean in another new Post; whose language (like many of us) didn’t do any ‘mincing’, or pull any punches, about getting to the point.
He was also the real “Rock” of this Site; who passed unexpectedly almost two years ago…at age 40!
Stardust et. al. have done a yeoman’s job of sustaining this Internet “Home” for many of us Infidel waywards.
Interestingly, today being St. Patty’s day, I got a rare email response (to my recent email) from one of my nephews…ANOTHER Sean.
Anyway, Sean…Feel at home here; and don’t worry about expressing yourself honestly. Indeed, there are not a lot of places one can feel free to do that, these days. That is, without feeling intimidated by the overwhelming majority of “Terminal Delusionals”.
Yeah, Sean…
“SHIT!” Or maybe…”SHIT-HEADS”?
18 March 2008, on 1:07 pm
Here is a past post about Osamamessiah by Vastleft
Barack Obama still putting the U.S. into Jesus
Wonderful, with that kind of attitude we will never have representation or a voice.
18 March 2008, on 1:52 pm
Wow, tha post from democratic underground is pretty chilling. I am not sure what “Perky” considers the “progressive agenda” to be, but my definition is a bit different. According to this nutjob, atheists’ “hatred and fear of anything or anyone that dare speaks of god will have dire consequences for yet another quarter century.” So it is the “militant atheist” who are to blame! What a refreshing progressive way to look at it.
“Perky” goes on to say that if Clinton is elected we will endure a “culture war” and that B Clinton’s nomination is to blame for the resurrection of the radical right.
I must say I admire perky’s rightousness, but he sounds like a real douchbag to me.
18 March 2008, on 1:54 pm
Wow, tha post from democratic underground is pretty chilling. I am not sure what “Perky” considers the “progressive agenda” to be, but my definition is a bit different. According to this nutjob, atheists’ “hatred and fear of anything or anyone that dare speaks of god will have dire consequences for yet another quarter century.” So it is the “militant atheist” who are to blame! What a refreshing progressive way to look at it.
“Perky” goes on to say that if Clinton is elected we will endure a “culture war” and that B Clinton’s nomination is to blame for the resurrection of the radical right.
I couldnt help but notice the add for Ben Stein’s “Expelled” movie right under perky’s post. Kind of makes you wonder who that site caters to…