Comments on: Yet another separation of church and state battle http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/ THIS BLOG IS NO LONGER ACTIVE. We've retired this blog, but the GifS gang is now active at Atheist Oasis (atheistoasis.wordpress.com). Visit us there! Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:44:32 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Inari http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-326902 Inari Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:26:47 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/#comment-326902 Where to begin... I think I'll just do one for today... "If we win, we praise gawd, and if we lose, we praise gawd." So, wait, your reaction will be the same regardless of the outcome of your contest? I see this as a metaphor for ID. "If the evidence shows that we're right, gawd did it. If not, gawd still did it." Just trying to get the kids prepared for teaching theology in science class, apparently. And now to go see my doctor, and get me some of science's wonderful blood pressure controlling medication. Where to begin…

I think I’ll just do one for today…

“If we win, we praise gawd, and if we lose, we praise gawd.”

So, wait, your reaction will be the same regardless of the outcome of your contest? I see this as a metaphor for ID. “If the evidence shows that we’re right, gawd did it. If not, gawd still did it.”

Just trying to get the kids prepared for teaching theology in science class, apparently.

And now to go see my doctor, and get me some of science’s wonderful blood pressure controlling medication.

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By: Fritzy http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-326117 Fritzy Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:50:52 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/#comment-326117 Karl: "With all the crap going on in the world, their god seems to be more interested in winning football games and getting some bimbo preggers." Ah, yes, God as the almighty armchair quarterback. Since football is as close as most people get to warfare these days, it makes sense that someone would pray for their Gawd to be on their army's side, as in days of yore. How far we've come from the barbaric ways of the Old Testament. This is merely one more illustration of how egocentric the Xtian religion can really be. And one more reason, like you Karl, these kinds of movies, after causing a rapid spike in my blood sugar, tend to make me throw up in my mouth, just a little. Karl: “With all the crap going on in the world, their god seems to be more interested in winning football games and getting some bimbo preggers.”

Ah, yes, God as the almighty armchair quarterback. Since football is as close as most people get to warfare these days, it makes sense that someone would pray for their Gawd to be on their army’s side, as in days of yore. How far we’ve come from the barbaric ways of the Old Testament.

This is merely one more illustration of how egocentric the Xtian religion can really be. And one more reason, like you Karl, these kinds of movies, after causing a rapid spike in my blood sugar, tend to make me throw up in my mouth, just a little.

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By: Eve http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-326062 Eve Thu, 24 Jan 2008 23:21:18 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/#comment-326062 <i>Karl E. Taylor: I guess the children starving in this world are just not that important.</i> I know; I guess when christ/god said, "<i>Suffer</i> the little children," he meant it literally /snark. Karl E. Taylor: I guess the children starving in this world are just not that important.

I know; I guess when christ/god said, “Suffer the little children,” he meant it literally /snark.

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By: Karl E. Taylor http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-325980 Karl E. Taylor Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:31:06 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/#comment-325980 With all the crap going on in the world, their god seems to be more interested in winning football games and getting some bimbo preggers. I guess the children starving in this world are just not that important. I really hate movies like this. With all the crap going on in the world, their god seems to be more interested in winning football games and getting some bimbo preggers.

I guess the children starving in this world are just not that important.

I really hate movies like this.

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By: ChuckA http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-325912 ChuckA Thu, 24 Jan 2008 04:14:42 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/#comment-325912 Hmmm... You guys got me thinking (stinking?)... My new Total Skeptic's (hysterical): "Lifetime Resume"?...(a VERY rough draft, of course?): "Brain washed (scared), baptized child/(scared) 1940s Catlick Church member/(scared) late grammar school "altar boy"/scared 1950s High School student/scared (1957)early college student/not so scared...self medicating (like, "who gives a fuck") late college agnostic/somewhat numbed out of gourd musician throughout the 1960s (still a wee bit scared, though)/drowning a lot in "WOO-WOO" in the 1970s/ waiting (hoping?) to be abducted by (Galactic) aliens in the 1980s ;) /finally sobered-up skeptic, by May, 1986/awakening (rather bold & obnoxious?) sober atheist in the 1990s/... Still Crazy after all those years...from 2000 & beyond....and...finally?... Wondering if we're all existing in some kind of goofy Matrix???" :shock: (Yeah...cue the Outer Limits theme!) Hmmm…
You guys got me thinking (stinking?)…
My new Total Skeptic’s (hysterical):
“Lifetime Resume”?…(a VERY rough draft, of course?):
“Brain washed (scared), baptized child/(scared) 1940s Catlick Church member/(scared) late grammar school “altar boy”/scared 1950s High School student/scared (1957)early college student/not so scared…self medicating (like, “who gives a fuck”) late college agnostic/somewhat numbed out of gourd musician throughout the 1960s (still a wee bit scared, though)/drowning a lot in “WOO-WOO” in the 1970s/ waiting (hoping?) to be abducted by (Galactic) aliens in the 1980s ;) /finally sobered-up skeptic, by May, 1986/awakening (rather bold & obnoxious?) sober atheist in the 1990s/…
Still Crazy after all those years…from 2000 & beyond….and…finally?…
Wondering if we’re all existing in some kind of goofy Matrix???” :shock:
(Yeah…cue the Outer Limits theme!)

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By: Fritzy http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-325908 Fritzy Thu, 24 Jan 2008 04:00:25 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/#comment-325908 Star; This is also the path I took. I think a great many people who are raised xtain (or perhaps any other religion) and eventually become atheists follow a similar evolution in their belief (and eventual lack thereof.) Even my mother, who has stopped short of outright disowning her xtianity went from virtual fundamentalist to very liberal, universalist xtain (i.e. "God made gays that way, and that's OK.") Yeah, I see Armstrong likely becoming a heathen before too long. Star;

This is also the path I took. I think a great many people who are raised xtain (or perhaps any other religion) and eventually become atheists follow a similar evolution in their belief (and eventual lack thereof.)

Even my mother, who has stopped short of outright disowning her xtianity went from virtual fundamentalist to very liberal, universalist xtain (i.e. “God made gays that way, and that’s OK.”)

Yeah, I see Armstrong likely becoming a heathen before too long.

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By: Eve http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-325861 Eve Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:18:41 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/#comment-325861 ^ That was sort of my "path" too, Star - except I took a detour along paganism and psychic/paranormal/supernatural woo-woo-ism somewhere between xianity and deism... :-D ^ That was sort of my “path” too, Star – except I took a detour along paganism and psychic/paranormal/supernatural woo-woo-ism somewhere between xianity and deism… :-D

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By: Stardust http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-325849 Stardust Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:41:36 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2008/01/22/yet-another-separation-of-church-and-state-battle/#comment-325849 Thanks for that link, bernarda. Though John Armstrong still clings to the belief in some sort of deity, I love the way he pulled out Babble passages from both the old and new testaments to prove his point. Xians are always pulling Babble passages out of their asses to make their points, but overlook the other passages which contradict their "evidence". ChuckA, maybe Armstrong is headed toward atheism. I went from xianity to deism to agnosticism to atheism in my "awakening" process. Thanks for that link, bernarda.
Though John Armstrong still clings to the belief in some sort of deity, I love the way he pulled out Babble passages from both the old and new testaments to prove his point. Xians are always pulling Babble passages out of their asses to make their points, but overlook the other passages which contradict their “evidence”.

ChuckA, maybe Armstrong is headed toward atheism. I went from xianity to deism to agnosticism to atheism in my “awakening” process.

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