Comments on: Should we be worried? http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/ THIS BLOG IS NO LONGER ACTIVE. We've retired this blog, but the GifS gang is now active at Atheist Oasis (atheistoasis.wordpress.com). Visit us there! Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:44:32 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: George Arndt http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/comment-page-1/#comment-296070 George Arndt Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:04:17 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/#comment-296070 Secular government is one of the greatest accomplishments of human kind. It insures more peace, freedom and political stability. It must be defended against ALL fundimentalists be they Chistian, Muslim or whatever the religion happens to be. Secular government is one of the greatest accomplishments of human kind. It insures more peace, freedom and political stability. It must be defended against ALL fundimentalists be they Chistian, Muslim or whatever the religion happens to be.

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By: Revenant http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/comment-page-1/#comment-295941 Revenant Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:38:34 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/#comment-295941 Lol, good one Chuck. Of course you can't go from Denver to Frankfurt on a princess cruise. Lol, good one Chuck. Of course you can’t go from Denver to Frankfurt on a princess cruise.

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By: ChuckA http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/comment-page-1/#comment-295903 ChuckA Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:50:24 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/#comment-295903 For any of you frequent flyers; beyond the usual fear of a really bad flight, due to the terrorist scare...here's ANOTHER reason, perhaps, for NOT flying. [Another one of my musical cohorts sent me an email linking this.]: One man's solution to a REALLY... "Bad Flight" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSOdXpndCIo For any of you frequent flyers; beyond the usual fear of a really bad flight, due to the terrorist scare…here’s ANOTHER reason, perhaps, for NOT flying.
[Another one of my musical cohorts sent me an email linking this.]:
One man’s solution to a REALLY…
“Bad Flight”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSOdXpndCIo

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By: Eve http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/comment-page-1/#comment-295855 Eve Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:30:34 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/#comment-295855 As a Naval Intelligence officer who lectured for my undergraduate political science class once told me, "you've got a future in military intelligence if you ever decide to pursue it, young lady" (yes, I've heard the military intelligence = oxymoron joke). I seem to be predisposed to be sneaky like that, as opposed to in-your-face combat, and in armed conflict you do need both... As a Naval Intelligence officer who lectured for my undergraduate political science class once told me, “you’ve got a future in military intelligence if you ever decide to pursue it, young lady” (yes, I’ve heard the military intelligence = oxymoron joke). I seem to be predisposed to be sneaky like that, as opposed to in-your-face combat, and in armed conflict you do need both…

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By: Revenant http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/comment-page-1/#comment-295783 Revenant Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:57:56 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/#comment-295783 Doh! "Closet", not "Closed". Doh! “Closet”, not “Closed”.

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By: Revenant http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/comment-page-1/#comment-295782 Revenant Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:57:33 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/#comment-295782 As I mentioned before, I'm not a liberal, but I can wholeheartedly agree with RDZ's comment. Though I keep the pistols in the closed in a locked case ;) As I mentioned before, I’m not a liberal, but I can wholeheartedly agree with RDZ’s comment. Though I keep the pistols in the closed in a locked case ;)

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By: Raindogzilla http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/comment-page-1/#comment-295725 Raindogzilla Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:47:55 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/#comment-295725 Some of us "liberals"- dyed in the wool, in my case, do not subscribe to the whole turn the other cheek mantra. Rational discourse is obviously the optimal method for conflict resolution but it's essentially worthless when one party's creed requires, hell, embraces the abandonment of reason and intellect. I don't think it's a stretch to say that different rules apply for the nutters. Even still, I wouldn't accord these demented fuckwits even the respect and compassion I would the truly mentally ill because their affliction is to true mental illness what putting fingers in one's ears and singing "Na, Na, Na, Na!" is to being actually deaf. Completely voluntary and inexcusable. They can have my brain when they pry it from my cold, dead skull- and, then, only after they've eaten a seriously unhealthy dose of lead on their way in... Make love, but keep the pistol on the night stand! Some of us “liberals”- dyed in the wool, in my case, do not subscribe to the whole turn the other cheek mantra. Rational discourse is obviously the optimal method for conflict resolution but it’s essentially worthless when one party’s creed requires, hell, embraces the abandonment of reason and intellect. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that different rules apply for the nutters. Even still, I wouldn’t accord these demented fuckwits even the respect and compassion I would the truly mentally ill because their affliction is to true mental illness what putting fingers in one’s ears and singing “Na, Na, Na, Na!” is to being actually deaf. Completely voluntary and inexcusable.

They can have my brain when they pry it from my cold, dead skull- and, then, only after they’ve eaten a seriously unhealthy dose of lead on their way in…

Make love, but keep the pistol on the night stand!

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By: ChuckA http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/comment-page-1/#comment-295709 ChuckA Thu, 30 Aug 2007 04:27:07 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/08/28/should-we-be-worried/#comment-295709 I think that the FIRST thing most, if not all of us, "liberal-ish" (wimpy?)types (Ford's description) can do is to be "out of the closet" regarding our atheism; at least with our families and friends...as a starter. We need to overcome any sneaking paranoia that we may have built up. In other words...exercise out right to be free with whatever OUR view of the world is. After all; that's exactly what the religious bullies have been doing forever! At least the door has been publicly, and noticeably, opened by Dawkins, Hitchens et. al. Many of us, relative to our age, employment, family responsibilities etc., are not in position to start running around demonstrating, or even, as Eve touched on...spying on the activities of the various religious fucktards. (Yeah Rev...that is a great word!) That could be very dangerous, indeed! We DO have to be rational, sensible...and careful...about our activities. At least, as a first step (ala Atheists Unanimous?); we can all start close to home. I think it really starts with honesty to those close to us...family, friends...even associates...one-on-one. And of course; doing it, perhaps, in a more non-aggressive, non-heavy handed way. Casual sharing of carefully selected Atheist oriented links in emails; fr'ntance. Here's a sort of 'gentler' little series that Stardust linked to here on GifS, a ways back; for just one example: Digitalfreethought's Atheism 101 [On YouTube in 6 parts] Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxF12cpLyhM (i.e...Pat Condell might be just a WEE bit harsh for the uninitiated!...What!...Save him for those nasty, and bloodthirsty backlashes?) Yeah...like, don't be TOO big a pain in the ass? But, at least...let them know. The next step may be for all of us to use the Internet to email places like the Major media...CNN, etc.; usually in connection with relevant news stories.(?) Gradually, getting more involved in making the "Media Sheeple Sleepers" aware of our ever growing numbers...and Separation of Church & State concerns! Of course, contacting any aspect of government, these days, is a bit more conducive to possible, even "rational" paranoia; considering the fuckhead climate established since 9/11 by the Bush led Constitutional eroding fuckheads! "AARGH!" :( I'm pretty sure I don't have to go further with this; and I'm guessing many of you already ARE involved with much of what I'm suggesting. After all...it's what religions have ALWAYS done, in one way or another, since time immemorial. I'm reminded of how the Religious Right's "Moral Majority" (Insanity) and Dominionist fucktards started their organized surge back in the 1960s; greatly enabled by "Mr. Jellybean" Reagan and his gang of delusional weasels. Zama, zama! I think that the FIRST thing most, if not all of us, “liberal-ish” (wimpy?)types (Ford’s description) can do is to be “out of the closet” regarding our atheism; at least with our families and friends…as a starter. We need to overcome any sneaking paranoia that we may have built up. In other

words…exercise out right to be free with whatever OUR view of the world is. After all; that’s exactly what the religious bullies have been doing forever!
At least the door has been publicly, and noticeably, opened by Dawkins, Hitchens et. al.

Many of us, relative to our age, employment, family responsibilities etc., are not in position to start running around demonstrating, or even, as Eve touched on…spying on the activities of the various religious fucktards. (Yeah Rev…that is a great word!) That could be very dangerous, indeed! We DO have to be rational, sensible…and careful…about our activities.

At least, as a first step (ala Atheists Unanimous?); we can all start close to home. I think it really starts with honesty to those close to us…family, friends…even associates…one-on-one. And of course; doing it, perhaps, in a more non-aggressive, non-heavy handed way.

Casual sharing of carefully selected Atheist oriented links in emails; fr’ntance.
Here’s a sort of ‘gentler’ little series that Stardust linked to here on GifS, a ways back; for just one example:
Digitalfreethought’s Atheism 101
[On YouTube in 6 parts]
Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxF12cpLyhM
(i.e…Pat Condell might be just a WEE bit harsh for the uninitiated!…What!…Save him for those nasty, and bloodthirsty backlashes?)
Yeah…like, don’t be TOO big a pain in the ass? But, at least…let them know.

The next step may be for all of us to use the Internet to email places like the Major media…CNN, etc.; usually in connection with relevant news stories.(?) Gradually, getting more involved in making the “Media Sheeple Sleepers” aware of our ever growing numbers…and Separation of Church & State concerns!
Of course, contacting any aspect of government, these days, is a bit more conducive to possible, even “rational” paranoia; considering the fuckhead climate established since 9/11 by the Bush led Constitutional eroding fuckheads! “AARGH!” :(

I’m pretty sure I don’t have to go further with this; and I’m guessing many of you already ARE involved with much of what I’m suggesting.
After all…it’s what religions have ALWAYS done, in one way or another, since time immemorial. I’m reminded of how the Religious Right’s “Moral Majority” (Insanity) and Dominionist fucktards started their organized surge back in the 1960s; greatly enabled by “Mr. Jellybean” Reagan and his gang of delusional weasels.
Zama, zama!

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