Comments on: Charting the cultural abyss: the chasm between Left and Right http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/ THIS BLOG IS NO LONGER ACTIVE. We've retired this blog, but the GifS gang is now active at Atheist Oasis (atheistoasis.wordpress.com). Visit us there! Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:44:32 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Bren http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/comment-page-1/#comment-268742 Bren Thu, 03 May 2007 16:37:57 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/#comment-268742 "Liberals are messier than conservatives, their rooms have more clutter...) I guess he's never seen my staunch republican boyfriend's house. Ten of my liberal friends combined have less clutter and disarray then he does. “Liberals are messier than conservatives, their rooms have more clutter…)

I guess he’s never seen my staunch republican boyfriend’s house. Ten of my liberal friends combined have less clutter and disarray then he does.

]]> By: Sarge http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/comment-page-1/#comment-265814 Sarge Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:45:22 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/#comment-265814 I actually got to talk to Gore Vidal once. Quite an experience. Turned out that in my teenage years I knew an aunt of his, she went to the church my parents dragged me to. He said that if she had gone into politics she probably would have been the first woman president...and a damn good one, too. I wonder if the Heaven's Gate outfit had contact with that book? In the late 1970s I was stationed in Germany and there was some kerfuffle about the founders that even made it into the Stars and Stripes. One of the officers saw some of the names and he told us that they had come to where he was in college. He went to a meeting they had and the man got up to speak. He said that he knew he was hearing the most absolute, whacked out, crazy bullshit that ever hit anyone's eardrums, but he wanted to stay. It took every bit of his self will to get up and leave that room, and he felt bad for days afterward. Said he couldn't say why. I actually got to talk to Gore Vidal once. Quite an experience. Turned out that in my teenage years I knew an aunt of his, she went to the church my parents dragged me to. He said that if she had gone into politics she probably would have been the first woman president…and a damn good one, too.

I wonder if the Heaven’s Gate outfit had contact with that book?

In the late 1970s I was stationed in Germany and there was some kerfuffle about the founders that even made it into the Stars and Stripes. One of the officers saw some of the names and he told us that they had come to where he was in college. He went to a meeting they had and the man got up to speak. He said that he knew he was hearing the most absolute, whacked out, crazy bullshit that ever hit anyone’s eardrums, but he wanted to stay. It took every bit of his self will to get up and leave that room, and he felt bad for days afterward. Said he couldn’t say why.

]]> By: Martian Anthropologist » Charting the cultural abyss: the chasm between Left and Right http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/comment-page-1/#comment-265566 Martian Anthropologist » Charting the cultural abyss: the chasm between Left and Right Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:52:00 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/#comment-265566 [...] (First posted at God is for Suckers!) [...] [...] (First posted at God is for Suckers!) [...]

]]> By: ChuckA http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/comment-page-1/#comment-265314 ChuckA Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:43:27 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/#comment-265314 Yes, Stupid Git...and Naomi...I garnered a HUGE amount of respect for Gore Vidal back in the late '80s or early '90s; in particular on some of his Dick Cavett(?) interviews. I have some VHS recordings of same. He was 'right on' with the recognition of how little difference there was between Dems and Repigs in the sellout to Corporate power. More interesting, to me, was his relatively 'early' highlighting of the rapidly growing power of the Republican Fundie Wingnuts; and his call for an outright fearless open confrontation with them. Yeah...like, "Bring it on!" At that time, I was a 'budding atheist', and his clarion call for true Liberals to wake up and start taking action, was, essentially, totally ignored by the media; EXCEPT for Cavett [and perhaps Charles Grodin?]. That reminds me also, that he and Al Gore are distantly related; but, as I remember...don't see eye to eye on certain issues.(?) Unfortunately, Vidal's age...and, of course, his atheist views...prevent the biased media from giving him proper coverage...and respect! Too bad, I say. Thanks for the reminder! I'd been meaning to check for some of his books at the local library. Yes, Stupid Git…and Naomi…I garnered a HUGE amount of respect for Gore Vidal back in the late ’80s or early ’90s; in particular on some of his Dick Cavett(?) interviews. I have some VHS recordings of same.
He was ‘right on’ with the recognition of how little difference there was between Dems and Repigs in the sellout to Corporate power.
More interesting, to me, was his relatively ‘early’ highlighting of the rapidly growing power of the Republican Fundie Wingnuts; and his call for an outright fearless open confrontation with them. Yeah…like, “Bring it on!”
At that time, I was a ‘budding atheist’, and his clarion call for true Liberals to wake up and start taking action, was, essentially, totally ignored by the media; EXCEPT for Cavett [and perhaps Charles Grodin?].
That reminds me also, that he and Al Gore are distantly related; but, as I remember…don’t see eye to eye on certain issues.(?)
Unfortunately, Vidal’s age…and, of course, his atheist views…prevent the biased media from giving him proper coverage…and respect!
Too bad, I say.
Thanks for the reminder! I’d been meaning to check for some of his books at the local library.

]]> By: Naomi http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/comment-page-1/#comment-265259 Naomi Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:09:03 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/#comment-265259 Stupid Git, it sounds like my kind of book. I'll see if I can get a used copy. On the other hand, this would be a perfect time to re-release it, dontcha think? Stupid Git, it sounds like my kind of book. I’ll see if I can get a used copy.

On the other hand, this would be a perfect time to re-release it, dontcha think?

]]> By: Stupid Git http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/comment-page-1/#comment-265146 Stupid Git Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:27:40 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/#comment-265146 Any of y'all ever read Gore Vidal's book "The Messiah"? It's a great tale about the making of a modern day messiah who convinces his followers that the greatest way to attain salvation is to leave this world behind and go straight on to the afterlife. Basically it starts a worldwide rash of suicides. It also deals with the corrupting forces of power in religion, political influence and many other important issues concerning organized religion. And it was written in the 1950's. A brilliant novel on so many levels. Any of y’all ever read Gore Vidal’s book “The Messiah”? It’s a great tale about the making of a modern day messiah who convinces his followers that the greatest way to attain salvation is to leave this world behind and go straight on to the afterlife. Basically it starts a worldwide rash of suicides. It also deals with the corrupting forces of power in religion, political influence and many other important issues concerning organized religion. And it was written in the 1950’s. A brilliant novel on so many levels.

]]> By: Sarge http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/comment-page-1/#comment-265017 Sarge Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:46:04 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/#comment-265017 Sorry, got out too soon. These people always seem to shout for their diety to let them live. They seem reluctant to partake of the joys of a saved afterlife. Sorry, got out too soon. These people always seem to shout for their diety to let them live. They seem reluctant to partake of the joys of a saved afterlife.

]]> By: Sarge http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/comment-page-1/#comment-265015 Sarge Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:44:31 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2007/04/24/charting-the-cultural-abyss-the-chasm-between-left-and-right/#comment-265015 I've definitly noticed it, dd. I've been in situations where I did hear people call on their diety. But about as many called for their mothers with about the same observable results. But, I also don't think many are really as anxious to get to their heaven as they let on. I often think that it's marginally better than what they think is the alternative...but not by much. I’ve definitly noticed it, dd. I’ve been in situations where I did hear people call on their diety. But about as many called for their mothers with about the same observable results.

But, I also don’t think many are really as anxious to get to their heaven as they let on. I often think that it’s marginally better than what they think is the alternative…but not by much.

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