Stepping On Bob’s Toes
29 August 2006 by Raindogzilla
This one was just down the road from me:
“David and Liz Carroll pinned their 3-year-old foster son’s arms behind his back, covered him in a blanket and then wrapped him with packing tape like a mummy, Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters said today.
Only the toddler’s head was exposed, he said.
Then, as Marcus Fiesel cried out in fear, the Union Township couple turned on a fan, shut the door to the 5-foot-by-7-foot closet, walked down the stairs and left the house for a day and a half to attend a family reunion in Kentucky, Deters said.
Marcus was dead by the time they got home early on the morning of Aug. 6. Deters said.
“He was wrapped like a cocoon,” Deters said, choking up.”
I watched this whole thing play out in the local news, starting with the reports about Marcus, who was also autistic, wandering off from his supposedly seizing mother at a neighboring park. Law enforcement, as well as the entire community, came out to search for the missing boy, trampling through the woods with dogs, holding vigils, pulling out all the stops. At one point, there was brief mention that, besides Liz Carroll, pictured, no one could confirm actually seeing little Marcus with her in the park that day. My antennae pricked up with thoughts of Susan Smith in South Carolina. The “grieving” foster mother even held a press conference, pleading for the return of Marcus and even going so far as to question the police effort. The sheer, fucking audacity.
Sure as shit. Bad Gawd. Sorry, Bob.
29 August 2006, on 9:41 pm
I forgot to mention that Liz and her husband ought to suffer the very same fate as this poor- yeah, I’m gonna say it, innocent little boy. Except their blankets ought to be lousy with fire ants. Bastards
29 August 2006, on 10:23 pm
Fire ants AND feces. And televise the event. Malevolent fuckers.
29 August 2006, on 11:39 pm
Sure as shit. Bad Gawd. Sorry, Bob.
Jesus-fucking-christ, RDZ…
That’s just too fucking much…
Looks like we got another winner for the FWD Hall of Fame…
Remember: it’s not really freedom unless you can do whatever horrible things you want to someone else without anyone intervening and stopping your sorry ass from doing it…
29 August 2006, on 11:51 pm
As of tonight, the happy couple has been charged with 1st degree murder, abuse of a corpse, and inciting panic. In general, I’m against the death penalty because I don’t think the State should be in that business but, in this case, I’d get into that business for them, gratis. Makes me fucking sick.
30 August 2006, on 12:45 am
Yeah… That’s a hard one and I would welcome a debate on it. I think what you said RDZ is exactly right: the State should not have the right to kill me. We know where that leads. And I welcome our right-wing readers to challenge that. Talk about BIG government.
Ironically, one of my heroes is a Catholic nun: Helen Prejean. She made the news recently for some decidedly fucked up shit:
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/198/story_19850_1.html
30 August 2006, on 9:59 am
Infuckingcredible, and when you realize he was their FOSTER son …
30 August 2006, on 10:12 am
I think this is an excellent argument against the huge numbers of people who think that being biologically capable of bearing children makes them inherently knowledgable about properly raising children.
Sick fucks.
30 August 2006, on 12:22 pm
Missed the foster part the first time through. This has happened more than once – the focus of a family’s psychotic crap on the “outsider.”
I’ve been rethinking the death penalty re serial killers, who when they’re free do nothing but kill. And I notice that several states now have the death penalty for child rapists, and I don’t know how I feel about that. Well, I know how I feel, that I’d pull the switch myself, but like others don’t want the state to have so much power. And what’s next, death for drug-related murders (which would very much overaffect the black community). I really don’t trust the state, but I also don’t see why people who can’t refrain from continual killing or raping of children should have a right to life. What do others think?
BTW, one quote from the piece on death penalty for child rapists gave me pause. Someone suggested that if we put people to death for killing the body, why not put them to death for killing a child’s soul. Well, we don’t need the xtians in here, do we? I use the word “soul” myself, but not in a religious context. And surely being sexually assaulted as a child does in many cases kill something deep within that child, but I’m suspicious of bringing the soul into this kind of debate.
30 August 2006, on 5:34 pm
I would never support the death penalty. It isn’t logical or feasible on too many levels to list here.
However, I wouldn’t really be happy with the justice system either, until sick fuckers (murderers, kid killers, child molesters, etc) never see the light of free day again. But, that’s probably a pipe dream, given our fucked up society. (And, here I’m speaking equally of Canada and the US, although Canada’s sorry-ass sentencing limitations make me want to take up the vigilanté cause.)
30 August 2006, on 9:44 pm
I’ve long thought that the punishment should match the crime, not just fit it. If we had a justice system that would allow us to sentence criminals to endure the the pain and suffering they put somebody else though I think it would be quite the deterent. Imagine a sick fuck like Timothy McVeigh in a concrete building surrounded by explosives; not knowing when it will explode, only that it will. Alone with the thought that he might be trapped under the rubble, suffocating in the dust and dark. Or the evil bastards that bound this poor kid up with duct tape and stuck him in the closet; what if they faced the same fate? Rob somebodies house and get caught- Guess what- you’re going home to an empty house. Steal someone’s identity – Your life is wiped clean- no S.S. number, no drivers license, nothing that will enable you or your family to live a normal life again. Drive drunk and kill somebody- you’re the next crash test dummy at the insurance institute test site. Play wild west gang banger and you become a target yourself. Pull a Ken Lay and lose EVERYTHING and be forced to wear a sandwich board declaring your crime on Wall St. in your underwear. Assault? punching bag duty at the hands of your victim or a good old fashioned public horsewhipping. Child molesters- just jail those bastards for life with other child molesters and make them shave their pubes daily. You get the idea…
Radical? Totally. Cruel? No worse than the offender. Unusual? Not really, the perp thought of the action first. Effective? I would bet that there would be alot more people thinking about their actions before they just acted.
I know that such a justice system is never going to be a reality. I know that the liberal readers will take offense to such Draconian suggestions. But I also know that if we don’t take steps soon to force criminals to own their actions, the criminals are going to own us. No amount of prisons will deter a criminal if the punishment is not severe enough to reform or prevent the criminal behavior.
31 August 2006, on 1:49 am
Holy shit…
31 August 2006, on 7:09 pm
Butler County Children Services Board officials said the agency will pay Marcus’ funeral expenses and make arrangements for his services according to the wishes of Donna Trevino, Marcus’ birth mother.
Children Services took Marcus from Trevino after he was found wandering in the street in April.
Trevino’s pastor at Healing Word of God Assembly in Liberty Township said when he saw Trevino on Monday, soon after she learned the gruesome details of her son’s death, she was distraught.
“She was pretty broken, truly hysterical,” the Rev. Don Shepherd said.
Shepherd said he counseled Trevino about Marcus’ death and told her Marcus was surely was with God.
“I said he was far better off with God than the unsafe world he was in,” Shepherd said.
But you probably still want to severely limit access to and kinds of dependable available birth control as well as outlaw abortion, don’t you, you hypocrite?
The agency that placed Marcus with the Carrolls and is currently under investigation is Lifeway for Youth; they have a response to his case.
5 September 2006, on 11:18 pm
Turns out, Amy Baker, the live-in girlfriend of the husband, who stood by and watched while Marcus was bound and left, was listed as the first reference on the Carroll’s application to foster Marcus. Meanwhile, the only slightly less despicable Donna Trevino has filed a five million dollar lawsuit against all the parties involved, stating that it’s “not about the money, but about making sure it never happens to another child”. This from a woman who had Marcus taken away from her because he had been found wandering the neighborhood and because he “fell” out of a window. Marcus, it’s been revealed, had serious behavior problems, like striking infants and smearing faeces all over the place. Make of it what you will.
6 September 2006, on 8:02 pm
Poor kid. Sounds like he was screwed from the start.