Comments on: Some things need no commentary http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/ THIS BLOG IS NO LONGER ACTIVE. We've retired this blog, but the GifS gang is now active at Atheist Oasis (atheistoasis.wordpress.com). Visit us there! Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:44:32 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: JeffB http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-21967 JeffB Wed, 31 May 2006 00:39:15 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/#comment-21967 I first heard about this a couple months ago, when a local paper (Pittsburgh Post Gazette) ran an article about one of the local stations using VNRs (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06097/680160-237.stm). Of course, this was a Sinclair station, same one that I believe gives gazillions to the Replublifasicts and was going to air the swift boat thing on John Kerry in 2004. I guess if you don't have any news that's good, you might as well make something up, right - "Mission Accomplished." I first heard about this a couple months ago, when a local paper (Pittsburgh Post Gazette) ran an article about one of the local stations using VNRs (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06097/680160-237.stm). Of course, this was a Sinclair station, same one that I believe gives gazillions to the Replublifasicts and was going to air the swift boat thing on John Kerry in 2004.

I guess if you don’t have any news that’s good, you might as well make something up, right – “Mission Accomplished.”

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By: Matt http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-21883 Matt Tue, 30 May 2006 22:13:12 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/#comment-21883 "And the internet is only so helpful. The response I get far too often when trying to inform someone of some story that the MSM is not covering or covering poorly is, “You can’t believe what you read on the internet.” There was a journalist from the local newspaper came to my Journalism class a month ago to talk and spent twenty minutes on how the blogs and the Internet were ruining the way news is sent out. I really wanted to ask him why he and others at the paper are a bunch of religious wackos who lack the balls to ask the tough questions, but I stayed my hand because I was in a class that completely agreed with him and any opposing viewpoint was shouted down, which is why my article debunking Bush's war drums for Iran was never printed, despite constant promises it would be. "If someone dares to make a statement that contradicts their “new truth”, they smear them- or blow their wife’s cover- and John Q. Public seems to miss the debunking of said smear that follows the initial story of it, but retaining that said contradiction was said by some “disreputable” source and therefore not true." Welcome to the world of the conspiracy theorist, where we predicted this back in 2000 and no one listened. “And the internet is only so helpful. The response I get far too often when trying to inform someone of some story that the MSM is not covering or covering poorly is, “You can’t believe what you read on the internet.”

There was a journalist from the local newspaper came to my Journalism class a month ago to talk and spent twenty minutes on how the blogs and the Internet were ruining the way news is sent out.

I really wanted to ask him why he and others at the paper are a bunch of religious wackos who lack the balls to ask the tough questions, but I stayed my hand because I was in a class that completely agreed with him and any opposing viewpoint was shouted down, which is why my article debunking Bush’s war drums for Iran was never printed, despite constant promises it would be.

“If someone dares to make a statement that contradicts their “new truth”, they smear them- or blow their wife’s cover- and John Q. Public seems to miss the debunking of said smear that follows the initial story of it, but retaining that said contradiction was said by some “disreputable” source and therefore not true.”

Welcome to the world of the conspiracy theorist, where we predicted this back in 2000 and no one listened.

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By: raindogzilla http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-21805 raindogzilla Tue, 30 May 2006 20:43:10 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/#comment-21805 As surprising as this isn't, hah, it falls neatly into line with the Bushistas paying two columnists to tout their marriage initiative and <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/01/26/politics/main669432.shtml" rel="nofollow">Armstrong Williams</a> 240K to shill for "No Child Left", oops, did I forget the "Behind"? I used to think it might be the Photoshopped picture or the manipulated or CGI'd video that might threaten reality in this modern world, but I wasn't prepared for the audacity of these pseudofascists now running the asylum. They repeat an untruth over and over- with such volume- until it becomes "truth". If someone dares to make a statement that contradicts their "new truth", they smear them- or blow their wife's cover- and John Q. Public seems to miss the debunking of said smear that follows the initial story of it, but retaining that said contradiction was said by some "disreputable" source and therefore not true. Then, when all else fails, they fall back on the sex life of a Republican- they Pay for it. Whether it's the VNRs, the abovementioned "journalists", or filling the new Iraqi media with Pollyanna Pro-Americana stories, they weave a brand spanking new reality out of whole cloth that's usually less complex and dumbed down from the original- like babyfood for an increasingly infantile populace. As surprising as this isn’t, hah, it falls neatly into line with the Bushistas paying two columnists to tout their marriage initiative and
Armstrong Williams 240K to shill for “No Child Left”, oops, did I forget the “Behind”?

I used to think it might be the Photoshopped picture or the manipulated or CGI’d video that might threaten reality in this modern world, but I wasn’t prepared for the audacity of these pseudofascists now running the asylum. They repeat an untruth over and over- with such volume- until it becomes “truth”. If someone dares to make a statement that contradicts their “new truth”, they smear them- or blow their wife’s cover- and John Q. Public seems to miss the debunking of said smear that follows the initial story of it, but retaining that said contradiction was said by some “disreputable” source and therefore not true. Then, when all else fails, they fall back on the sex life of a Republican- they Pay for it. Whether it’s the VNRs, the abovementioned “journalists”, or filling the new Iraqi media with Pollyanna Pro-Americana stories, they weave a brand spanking new reality out of whole cloth that’s usually less complex and dumbed down from the original- like babyfood for an increasingly infantile populace.

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By: JokerCross http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-21708 JokerCross Tue, 30 May 2006 17:03:49 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/#comment-21708 The post 9-11 jingoism did its work in getting people not to question their government, even the media. The Ministry of Propaganda was able to flourish in this environment in a way that it never would have been able to before. THe MSM <i>still</i> seems to be asleep regarding much of what goes on in this administration. Maybe if they started covering the real stories instead of massaging the administration's scrotum, we wouldn't be in half the trouble we are. The "news" has finally become what it's always been threatening to become: A corporate entity that panders to it's audience instead of informing them. Run a thousand stories about Brad and Angelina, run some propaganda, and then spend three weeks talking about white women in peril. You're correct, King Retard. The Fourth Estate <i>is</i> fucked. What I wonder is if people will finally realize that and the fact that if we can't be properly informed of the truth, it might mean <i>we're</i> fucked as well. And the internet is only so helpful. The response I get far too often when trying to inform someone of some story that the MSM is not covering or covering poorly is, "You can't believe what you read on the internet." The post 9-11 jingoism did its work in getting people not to question their government, even the media. The Ministry of Propaganda was able to flourish in this environment in a way that it never would have been able to before. THe MSM still seems to be asleep regarding much of what goes on in this administration. Maybe if they started covering the real stories instead of massaging the administration’s scrotum, we wouldn’t be in half the trouble we are.

The “news” has finally become what it’s always been threatening to become: A corporate entity that panders to it’s audience instead of informing them. Run a thousand stories about Brad and Angelina, run some propaganda, and then spend three weeks talking about white women in peril.

You’re correct, King Retard. The Fourth Estate is fucked. What I wonder is if people will finally realize that and the fact that if we can’t be properly informed of the truth, it might mean we’re fucked as well.

And the internet is only so helpful. The response I get far too often when trying to inform someone of some story that the MSM is not covering or covering poorly is, “You can’t believe what you read on the internet.”

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By: MegaTroopX http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-21679 MegaTroopX Tue, 30 May 2006 16:32:19 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/#comment-21679 At least the net gives you a chance in the era of "fake but accurate". Thank goodness for that. At least the net gives you a chance in the era of “fake but accurate”. Thank goodness for that.

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By: King Retard http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-21676 King Retard Tue, 30 May 2006 16:26:28 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/#comment-21676 What happened to passionate journalists? Apparently, the major media outlets want nothing to do with them, so they're forced to the fringes while "news reports" about the benefits of Snickers replace critical analysis of politics. So, between VNRs, embedded reporters, Fox News, media deregulation by the FCC allowing Clear Channel and a small handful of others to buy up everything, the fourth estate is pretty much fucked. Thank FSM for the interweb, although we'll probably lose that soon. What happened to passionate journalists? Apparently, the major media outlets want nothing to do with them, so they’re forced to the fringes while “news reports” about the benefits of Snickers replace critical analysis of politics. So, between VNRs, embedded reporters, Fox News, media deregulation by the FCC allowing Clear Channel and a small handful of others to buy up everything, the fourth estate is pretty much fucked. Thank FSM for the interweb, although we’ll probably lose that soon.

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By: Mike http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-21450 Mike Tue, 30 May 2006 12:46:11 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/#comment-21450 Exactly, Sean. Every time I mention someone in politics or world affairs and get that tilted-head dog look in return, I ask them who was kicked off Survivor the previous week. I'm never disappointed - that is, until I walk away in despair at how easily our attention is lead away from that which matters to that which isn't worth a monkey fart in a mason jar. Exactly, Sean. Every time I mention someone in politics or world affairs and get that tilted-head dog look in return, I ask them who was kicked off Survivor the previous week. I’m never disappointed – that is, until I walk away in despair at how easily our attention is lead away from that which matters to that which isn’t worth a monkey fart in a mason jar.

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By: Sean http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-21418 Sean Tue, 30 May 2006 12:28:40 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/05/30/some-things-need-no-commentary/#comment-21418 I work in media and we have been aware of the <a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Video_news_releases" rel="nofollow">VNRs</a> for some time now. Let's see if the general public gets any inkling of the concerns such propaganda raises before they head to the voting slaughterhouses in November. And for those who would blame the media for these grotesque situations, ask yourself: what do we consume? How many Americans can name the Secretary of State as opposed to the final three contestants on American Idol? "Every country has the government it deserves." - Joseph Marie de Maistre I work in media and we have been aware of the VNRs for some time now. Let’s see if the general public gets any inkling of the concerns such propaganda raises before they head to the voting slaughterhouses in November.

And for those who would blame the media for these grotesque situations, ask yourself: what do we consume? How many Americans can name the Secretary of State as opposed to the final three contestants on American Idol?

“Every country has the government it deserves.”
– Joseph Marie de Maistre

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