Comments on: This One’s for james http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/04/11/this-ones-for-james/ THIS BLOG IS NO LONGER ACTIVE. We've retired this blog, but the GifS gang is now active at Atheist Oasis (atheistoasis.wordpress.com). Visit us there! Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:44:32 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Eve http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/04/11/this-ones-for-james/comment-page-2/#comment-12630 Eve Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:44:37 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=1704#comment-12630 Hey, Sean, thanks for the link! Deacon Berry: There is a hypothesis that William Shakespeare was involved in the translation of the King James bible, being the pre-eminent poet of the time. I read that, too, and the KJV certainly has powerful poetry in it, which helps make the hypothesis so possible and the language so quotable. We may never know for sure, though, if Will contributed; what is pretty much indisputable is that 80 - 90 percent of the KJV's language is William Tyndale's, who translated the bible beginning in 1525 - and got burned at the stake by the catholics for it. Hey, Sean, thanks for the link!

Deacon Berry: There is a hypothesis that William Shakespeare was involved in the translation of the King James bible, being the pre-eminent poet of the time.

I read that, too, and the KJV certainly has powerful poetry in it, which helps make the hypothesis so possible and the language so quotable. We may never know for sure, though, if Will contributed; what is pretty much indisputable is that 80 – 90 percent of the KJV’s language is William Tyndale’s, who translated the bible beginning in 1525 – and got burned at the stake by the catholics for it.

]]>
By: Sean http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/04/11/this-ones-for-james/comment-page-2/#comment-12396 Sean Fri, 14 Apr 2006 23:43:39 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=1704#comment-12396 Hey, Eve. Looks like people are taking note of this post... check it out: http://www.commonplacebook.com/current_events/the_accuracy_of.shtm Hey, Eve. Looks like people are taking note of this post… check it out:

http://www.commonplacebook.com/current_events/the_accuracy_of.shtm

]]>
By: Sean http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/04/11/this-ones-for-james/comment-page-2/#comment-12277 Sean Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:14:37 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=1704#comment-12277 James said: <i>by: james Apr 12, 2006 - Show original item atheist tactic #1- God makes us feel uncomfortable so deny his existence and then post mock-debate tactics for theists so we dont have to take them seriously </i> Sigh. Another theist who thinks we secretly believe in gawd but are afraid to admit it. I think james secretly <i>doesn't</i> believe in gawd, is terrified to admit it, but keeps coming back here hoping that he can figure out his confusion on the issue -- only to find himself more and more confused. James said:

by: james

Apr 12, 2006 – Show original item

atheist tactic #1- God makes us feel uncomfortable so deny his existence and then post mock-debate tactics for theists so we dont have to take them seriously

Sigh. Another theist who thinks we secretly believe in gawd but are afraid to admit it. I think james secretly doesn’t believe in gawd, is terrified to admit it, but keeps coming back here hoping that he can figure out his confusion on the issue — only to find himself more and more confused.

]]>
By: Lya Kahlo http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/04/11/this-ones-for-james/comment-page-2/#comment-12194 Lya Kahlo Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:55:19 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=1704#comment-12194 We laughed, you made yourself look like a moron. Post if you like, but continue to waste space with pointless drivel and it will be messed with. We laughed, you made yourself look like a moron.

Post if you like, but continue to waste space with pointless drivel and it will be messed with.

]]>
By: james http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/04/11/this-ones-for-james/comment-page-2/#comment-12172 james Thu, 13 Apr 2006 02:31:20 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=1704#comment-12172 oh i read the comment about what he said, why, am i supposed to care about what this guy thinks? does he represent all christians? oh well, so am i allowed to play with you guys anymore? or is our fun over? :( if it is, i will miss this, it was fun, we laughed, we cried, but if you guys want me to leave i will (sniff sniff) man-snausage train to cornhole glory town? haha, wow oh i read the comment about what he said, why, am i supposed to care about what this guy thinks? does he represent all christians?
oh well, so am i allowed to play with you guys anymore? or is our fun over? :(
if it is, i will miss this, it was fun, we laughed, we cried, but if you guys want me to leave i will (sniff sniff)

man-snausage train to cornhole glory town?

haha, wow

]]>
By: Marcus http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/04/11/this-ones-for-james/comment-page-2/#comment-12171 Marcus Thu, 13 Apr 2006 02:19:28 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=1704#comment-12171 A xian who would call you a fake. You seriously don't know the branches of your own belief system? *PSHAW!* Really! A xian who would call you a fake. You seriously don’t know the branches of your own belief system?

*PSHAW!* Really!

]]>
By: james http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/04/11/this-ones-for-james/comment-page-2/#comment-12167 james Thu, 13 Apr 2006 02:11:01 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=1704#comment-12167 who's james wickstrom? who’s james wickstrom?

]]>
By: Eve http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/04/11/this-ones-for-james/comment-page-2/#comment-12151 Eve Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:33:11 +0000 http://gods4suckers.net/?p=1704#comment-12151 james: the reason i gave you blb.org is to show how the origanal texts translate into english Caution: The sticky wicket continues to be what you're calling "original texts;" from what the blb says, the Greek/Hebrew lexicons it uses for word study are all in the public domain - which is OK up to a certain point, except that most of those works were written kind of a long time ago (e.g., "Thayer's work was derived (translated, revised, and enlarged) in the 1880's from Grimm's Lexicon of 1868. The Blue Letter Bible staff is using the corrected edition of 1889"). So the Greek or Hebrew source being referenced could possibly be out of date in comparison to more recent discoveries and updates in the field. The site admits that many of the newer publications are not available to them to post because they're still under copyright, so blb appears to have limitations, but to give credit where credit is due, they *do* admit to them openly. j: youll find metzger’s stuff is actually the brest[sic]. Good! His peers consider him the number one scholar in the field of the New Testament. However, don't forget Emanuel Tov, considered Metzger's counterpart in the Old Testament. Sharona: I just think it would be interesting to see the entire fairy tale works together in one place. Then clear an entire shelf of your bookcase! Seriously, though, just browsing through the Religious Reference and Bible stacks at Barnes and Noble is enough to make your head spin. A book titled <a href="http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&isbn=0679724532&itm=1" rel="nofollow">The Gnostic Gospels</a> by Elaine Pagels caught my eye, but I imagine they'll have to update it eventually to include the <a href="http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&isbn=1426200420&itm=2" rel="nofollow">Gospel of Judas</a>, which has only just been published as a book on its own. As for protestants bashing catholics, please; who do you think you're fooling, claiming to be holier-than-thou? Martin Luther burned witches just like the catholics were doing at the time, and there was nary a catholic in sight at the Salem Witch Trials. At least the RCC had the sense to openly and publicly come out against creationism/intelligent design, if nothing else. james: the reason i gave you blb.org is to show how the origanal texts translate into english

Caution: The sticky wicket continues to be what you’re calling “original texts;” from what the blb says, the Greek/Hebrew lexicons it uses for word study are all in the public domain – which is OK up to a certain point, except that most of those works were written kind of a long time ago (e.g., “Thayer’s work was derived (translated, revised, and enlarged) in the 1880’s from Grimm’s Lexicon of 1868. The Blue Letter Bible staff is using the corrected edition of 1889″). So the Greek or Hebrew source being referenced could possibly be out of date in comparison to more recent discoveries and updates in the field. The site admits that many of the newer publications are not available to them to post because they’re still under copyright, so blb appears to have limitations, but to give credit where credit is due, they *do* admit to them openly.

j: youll find metzger’s stuff is actually the brest[sic].

Good! His peers consider him the number one scholar in the field of the New Testament. However, don’t forget Emanuel Tov, considered Metzger’s counterpart in the Old Testament.

Sharona: I just think it would be interesting to see the entire fairy tale works together in one place.

Then clear an entire shelf of your bookcase! Seriously, though, just browsing through the Religious Reference and Bible stacks at Barnes and Noble is enough to make your head spin. A book titled The Gnostic Gospels by Elaine Pagels caught my eye, but I imagine they’ll have to update it eventually to include the Gospel of Judas, which has only just been published as a book on its own.

As for protestants bashing catholics, please; who do you think you’re fooling, claiming to be holier-than-thou? Martin Luther burned witches just like the catholics were doing at the time, and there was nary a catholic in sight at the Salem Witch Trials. At least the RCC had the sense to openly and publicly come out against creationism/intelligent design, if nothing else.

]]>