Deconversion (part two)
3 April 2006 by Lya KahloPart two: Judaism
Simon Barat was my first love (eve called it!). Given that it was college and I did what college kids do – BAR HOPING – and he was a bouncer, I’d spoken to Simon a few times before I really met him. According to him, he’d hit on me on those occasions we’d crossed paths but because he was “so much older” than I was, I’d ignored him. He was eight years older than I was (26 at that point), in case you’re wondering. He wasn’t an old man, or something.
A little bit of what he called his “Jew cred”:
Simon was born in Bethlehem (c’mon, how perfect is THAT?) and raised on a series of Kibbutzim in Israel. His parents were devoutly religious, but somehow managed to maintain open minds. Stemming, I think, from the fact that his mother was a Muslim Arab who’d escaped an arranged marriage, converted to Judaism and married a Yeshiva Student. That’s the stuff Lifetime movies are made of.
I think this attributed to his oddness. He was devout, but not the sort of devout that other devout Jews would consider devout. (got that? >:) ) He was observed the Kashrut (kosher) laws, he observed Shabbat (Sabbath), he was part of a Minyan . But, he ran with the Reconstructionist crowd here – which is about as liberal and progressive as it’s possible to get. So he also had tattoos, wore whatever clothes he wanted (blended fabrics – oy veh!) and was NOT AL ALL observant of the Negiah laws.
I was starting to doubt the existence of god when I met Simon. He believed, but even he admitted that he didn’t care if it were true or not – doing the rituals, praying etc made him happy and he could see no wrong in that. Neither could (can) I. He didn’t talk about it in public, he never preached to anyone. It was just something private that gave him joy. If only everyone treated their religious beliefs in the same way.
I’ll spare you the sentimental and sappy details. Suffice it to say this: though I’ve always been anti-marriage, when he asked me I couldn’t refuse.
Then, in Nov ‘99 Simon was taking a ride on his motorcycle and because it was raining took it easy around a sharp corner. The drunken truck driver coming the other way, did not. He was dead long before the ambulance got there.*
And true to form, I ran toward religion, instead of away. Except this time, it was his religion.
Through Simon I had met his Rabbi – Rebekah, and her husband Isaac (another Rabbi). They would be my teachers over the next three(plus some) years. I won’t deny that Judaism spoke to me in a way that Xianity never did. Being parent and original, it felt more authentic. But it could never be denied that it is, above all else, a tribalistic religion. It’s clearly designed to set one group of people apart from the rest with exclusive rituals and customs.
It needs to be said that the bickering schism between the sect of Judaism is worse than that between Xian ones. I’ve heard stories of converts who moved to Israel only to find out that their conversion was not considered valid there and therefore they could not stay (basically). Even here, a convert to one sect is not considered Jewish by another. And, more annoying still, some sects consider all conversions invalid and the converted to be an imposter.
This is not what pushed me away this time, however. This time it was the blatant and rampant misogyny. Now, I’ve had this argument with Jewish believers before. There’s a plethora of excuses or cute little justifications for the misogyny present in the religion – and there’s also flat out denial (which usually comes in the form of the “Yeshiva Defense” which means all you’ll get is “you just don’t understand” instead of any real reasoning). I’ll give a few examples:
– Every morning observant men recite the Aleinu (Adoration) in which men thank god “for not having made me a woman”. Now, the most common excuse for that one I’ve gotten is that what it really means is that men are thanking god for making them as he saw fit – which is what the female version of this prayer says. However to quote: “This women’s prayer encourages women to accept their fate, the same destiny which the men rejoice in having avoided.” (The Problem with the Aleinu-Adoration)
- The set of laws known as Niddah – euphemistically called the “Family Purity” laws. Which contain, for example, the cleansing rituals women perform after doing something dirty – like having babies. A woman is “unclean” for 33 days after giving birth – if she had a boy. It’s 66 days for a baby girl. There are also rules about what a menstruating woman can and cannot do (namely, sleep with her husband). In the more strict sects, a menstruating woman can’t sleep in the same bed, and can’t pass anything directly to her husband.
- Lastly, there’s the plight of the Agunah- which is “a woman who wishes to obtain a divorce from her husband, but whose husband is either unable or unwilling to grant her a halachic bill of divorce, or Get”. Agunah means “chained woman”. So, let’s say you’re a woman married to a complete fucktard – abusive, neglectful etc – or he’s in a coma, or certifiably insane, and you want a divorce. If you’re an observant woman, this fucktard (or in a coma, or certifiably insane) husband has to agree to the divorce. If he refuses to (or can’t) grant one, or if he’s run off and there’s no way to contact him, you are chained to him FOREVER. Which means if you want to stay with your observant community, you can never get remarried. Also, you can forget about having a boyfriend. AND – if you do have a child after being declared an Agunah – that child is a mamzer (a bastard) and can’t marry a Jew. Or, you can leave your family, friends and life behind (in disgrace, natch) and do whatever you like. Because, while secular public law will grant you the divorce, the Jewish community will not. It’s their way, or the highway.
There has been centuries of debate trying to find a loophole in the “law” (or the Torah, to us) that will alleviate this. But, since simply changing the law is a big no-no, they can’t just decree that women married to fucktards can divorce them. Their not allowed to change god’s word. At least, that’s the excuse they give for not fixing this particularly cruel law. They do change things when they need to, they just refer to it as a Rabbinical decree that creates “a fence around the law”.
There’s also the Mechitza which sometimes means having women up in the balcony, forbidden to talk during the service, and sometimes with an obstructed view, the separation even at a wedding celebration, the modesty rules – I could go on forever.
Now, it must be noted here that these things are practiced only by the Orthodox (and sometimes Conservative) sects of Judaism. And even there, it varies. There’s an old saying that goes: “If there are two Jews in a room, there are three opinions.” Nowhere is the better illustrated then by the degree of varying adherence to Halacha (Jewish Law) from sect to sect and even congregation to congregation.
So, since I said I was studying under a Reconstructionist Rabbi, why did this bother me so much? Like I said, only some conversions are considered valid by Israel. And that’s where the Rabbis’ Stone were going, and I wanted to go too. But they, being born Jewish, were covered under the Right of Return law. I, being a convert, had to convert with an Orthodox Rabbi to be considered “kosher” (*cue rim shot*)
Since I had spent several months there as a guest of the Rabbis’ Stone, that’s where I wanted to be. So, if I couldn’t reconcile myself with converting to a sect that I knew to be hardcore misogynistic, I couldn’t go. Imagine what I failure I felt like. I had tried before to find god, and failed. Here I was trying again, and failing. God must not want me, god must have something against me, god must have a plan that includes for me to go to hell. (note: the concept of hell as the ‘fire and brimstone pit of torture forever’ is an xian thing. For the Jews, there’s Gehana – also a pit of despair and torture, but it’s only for a limited amount of time to “cleanse” the soul for earthly sins before getting it on in heaven.) I was sinking in to depression fast – partly because of this, and partly because the reality and finality of Simon’s death was only just sinking in – three years later.
Sensing my hesitation and increasing desperation, Isaac gave me a book from his own collection. It was The Blind Watchmaker, Why the Evidence of Evolution Reveals a Universe Without Design – by Richard Dawkins. This was something unexpected. The priest I’d studied Xianity under had bookshelves full of books, but they were all in support of his beliefs. But here, in this Rabbi’s office, was an entire section of books about atheism, about the problems with biblical history, he even had Mein Kampf.
Even though I had left college, I had kept up my study of philosophy, feminism and some sciences. They had been pulling me away from religion since my introduction to them. This one though, was the proverbial final nail in the coffin. Isaac said he surrounded himself with books that countered religion and even his Jewish heritage and identity to remind himself that there is always opposition. He said “an enemy is someone you know nothing about. If I can learn about others, perhaps they can cease to be enemies.” He would later tell me that he himself doubted the existence of god, but, like Simon, didn’t care if it were true or not. It made him happy.
He said he could see it did not make me happy. So, instead of trying to stretch myself to fit the mold, why not explore different avenues. Ever day I thank him for that.
I left religious study for good shortly thereafter. Though it would be several years before I could say the word “atheist” out loud.
I still hang out with the Stones. I babysit their kids on occasion. They still invite me to Sabbath dinner and I still go. I have gone into far more detail about Judaism than I did with Xianity because even now the loss of it grieves me. It holds a special place in my heart still – largely because of these people. Instead of casting me aside and never speaking to me again – like the oh-so-loving-and-forgiving Bible Fellowship – the Stones keep me in their circle. They’re excellent people. Some of the few I can honestly say no devolved by religion.
This is why I scoff at theists who tell me to “really give religion a try” or “really study the bible/torah/koran with an open mind”. As if I haven’t already done so. Because, were they to “really” study it with “an open mind”, I have serious doubts they’d remain believers.
* you may think I treated his death lightly in this post. Perhaps. In my defense it’s been nearly seven years and I have long accepted that life sometimes really sucks. We have no control over it, so I will not spend my life mourning that fact.
part three: Atheism (coming soon)

3 April 2006, on 9:44 am
Apologies if this a little off-topic but I think it’s worth noting.
I heard a report over the weekend about some nuns in CT whom you
can PAY to pray for you in a kind of subscription agreement. It costs $160 a year
and you get their email and phone numbers so that they can get the “heavy guns
out” in case a crises takes place. So I guess the big guy upstairs likes folks
with cash more than his empoverished followers. At the same time, one one has to wonder what help can you expect from a couple of skanky nuns in CT, when a BILLION people were supposedly praying for Pope John Paull II and he kicked off anyway. What a fucking scam!
3 April 2006, on 10:41 am
The lengths which religion goes to denigrate women is absolutely appalling. Worse is that people still mindlessly accept this sexist crap in the 21st century !! Also what’s the deal with Saturdays ? Religious people who observe the sabbath say they can’t use any electronic devices or handle money, that’s absolutely STUPID !! This is a technological world and denying that is crazy. Is there a limit to this insanity ?? Can you get a soda from the fridge ? Can you look at a clock or watch to see what time it is ? Do you have to sit in the dark during winter evenings ? More stupid idiot rules which truly have no place in the modern world.
3 April 2006, on 11:25 am
You can’t strike a match or start a fire once sabbath starts, so any of that has to be set up before it starts. An Orthodox family I had dinner with once turned their oven on just before the sabbath starts (sundown on Friday night) and left it on until sunday morning.
You can’t handle money, or even pencils/pens. You can get a soda out of the fridge, if you took percautions to keep the light bulb from lighting when you open the door. No, I’m not kidding.
As for the sexism – it’s not amazing women still put up with it because they’re brainwashed from birth to accept it.
Watch Trembling Before G-d. It’s an EXCELLENT advert for atheism.
3 April 2006, on 11:45 am
Actually, the requirement that cracks me up the most is that they have to say a prayer every time they take a dump to thank God that he gave them orifices out of which they can pass their bodily wastes!
3 April 2006, on 1:27 pm
A great second part, Lya; it sounds like Simon and you had a wonderful relationship, so you must have a great wealth of memories.
And thank you for the details on Judaism; it must have been a really tough time for you, not only grieving but trying to belong to a religion that so many of its adherents would deny to you.
3 April 2006, on 4:26 pm
Lya: As someone who lost a brother at close to the same age you were when you lost Simon, that story was very moving. I also had a feeling from the outset that’s where it was going. When my family lost its eldest son, a rift was created between the theist and non-theist sides of my family — my mother and sister on one side, my father and me on the other. We fought over how his remains should be disposed of (they won). There was animosity for years. My sister and I, both atheists now and the best of friends, look back on it and shake our heads. Maybe I’ll write the full version of that story here sometime.
Thanks, Lya, for illuminating some details of devout Judaism I knew nothing about. Certainlty the liberal Jews I grew up with (and dated) in New York City didn’t follow any of those Orthodox laws.
3 April 2006, on 9:22 pm
“You can’t strike a match or start a fire once sabbath starts, so any of that has to be set up before it starts.”
“You can get a soda out of the fridge, if you took percautions to keep the light bulb from lighting when you open the door.”
HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!! That’s incredibly stupid !!! Where the crap did these stupid inane rules come from ? Also I’d say that getting a soda from the fridge is still using an electrical device since a fridge is powered by electricity. Same for look at a clock or watch. LOSERS !! Imagine wasting time to take precautions to keep a fridge light bulb from lighting only on Saturdays, that’s ludicrous !! What will happen if they violated one of these stupid rules, is the bogeyman gonna get them ?? HAHAHAHA !!!! Wasting their time on a bunch of stupid arbitrary crap that makes absolutely nosense whatsoever. The sad part is they keep brainwashing the next generation so the cycle of stupidity continues. DOWN WITH RELIGION, ALL OF THEM !!!
4 April 2006, on 6:14 am
The reason why they do it is the “rabbinical decree” I mentioned. They refer to the extra rules the Rabbis come up with as the “fence around the law”. They take the extreme precautions because even though the world evolves, religion does not and they have to keep coming up with new ways to avoid breaking the laws.
The point isn’t punishment, however. They’re not xians. They don’t think god will personally punish them for writing their name on the sabbath. The point is that the sabbath is supposed to be a day of rest – total rest. Handling a pencil could lead to writing, which is forbidden. The same with everything else.
Sean – I’m very sorry to hear that. Religion even creates problems for you after your dead. I hope your brother got the burial he would have wanted, if nothing else.
4 April 2006, on 7:42 am
Thanks, Lya. No. He was an atheist, and having people fight over his cremation and burial is the last thing he would have wanted. He did end up cremated, for which we, the father and son, were blamed for setting in motion.
We planned to scatter his ashes over a lake he loved as a child — instead the ashes were taken by his mother and buried in a place he had no fondness for in the Southwest. She did this by flying in at the 11th hour and telling the funeral home that the father was responsible for the boy’s death (an outrageous falsehood, considering her own many-year absence at the time) and to not let him anywhere near the proceedings. It was very ugly and took years of reconciliation between my sister and me… Who were pawns in the whole thing.
All of this was to prove to us that her son was in heaven and that she was damned if she was going to let us say otherwise. All we were saying was that he was an atheist, something she did not understand nor even know about him, and that he would not have wanted all of this misery and infighting over his remains.
4 April 2006, on 8:55 am
Proof positive that for theists the final wishes of the deceased can be totally ignored in favor of their own selfish desires. That’s sick. But, I fear the same thing will happen to me when I kick it – if my family is in control that is.
4 April 2006, on 2:25 pm
Lya – amazing stuff, yet again.
Your writing captures and conveys your experience with focus, wit, and wisdom. Your talent for being emotionally true yet rationally curious and observant is always a pleasure to read.
If I could see you, I’d be trying desperately to make eye-babies with you.
“Comment-posting babies” lacks the fundie nutjob flavor, but I’m giving it a go.
Feel the love of my helvetica.
Looking forward to your next post.
4 April 2006, on 8:01 pm
That was lovely. I think your pain and grief over Simon was clearly and eloquently expressed.
I’m currently atheist/agnostic/Buddhist and still not fully formed, as it were, in my religious/non-religious identity.
I was raised Xian (intermittently, for which I’ll always be grateful. The intermitent part, I mean. Made it easier to extricate myself.), but have always felt a pull toward Judaism (hency my yiddish pen name).
This post is a little peek into why.
Thank you for writing it.
4 April 2006, on 8:03 pm
Uh, I should probably clarify. The kindness, intellectualness, and open-mindedness of your rabbis is what I was refering to, not the misogyny, magic, and nit-picking of Judaism.
5 April 2006, on 5:56 am
“The kindness, intellectualness, and open-mindedness of your rabbis is what I was refering to, not the misogyny, magic, and nit-picking of Judaism.”
You’ll find both. Though, the nastier bits you’ll pretty much only find on the orthodox end. I never heard a reconstructionist or reform Jew tell someone else they’re not “really” Jewish.
21 April 2006, on 7:23 am
Lya,
When you said:
In my defense it’s been nearly seven years and I have long accepted that life sometimes really sucks.
In my experience, some of the most painful things we experience can be quite difficult for us to blather on about. We tend to keep brevity when it is a sensitive issue. A close friend of mine committed suicide at a ripe-old-twenty-one years of age, and her death is still quite painful to talk about. My wife and I visited her gravesite back at Xmas, and I haven’t really talked much about it since.
I think that the pain and shittiness of life, as you poignantly wrote, can lead us to religion. And the reason is simple: we are promised that we will find peace and more understanding, if only we have a relationship with the Creator of the universe. If it were true, we would. The pain and confusion doesn’t change, though, does it? And in fact, the confusion only gets worse, and disillusionment and bitterness can often set in afterwards.
Thank you for sharing this.