Something Never Came From Nothing Because There Never Was Nothing – Or Something Like That…
23 March 2006 by Rockstar RyanI hate it when Jeebus’s army comes out to prove their magic sky god is real with the following argument:
Moronic Theist: Oh yEAh? WEll hOw did wE get herE, huH? SOmeThinG cain’T cOMe frOM NOThinG!
Rockstar: True. “Nothing” exists only in The NeverEnding Story.
You see, there never was “nothing”. Time and space are constant; without one the other can’t exist. And if you don’t think time and space are constants in the universe, please submit your research for the next Nobel Prize. Since time and space began at the same time, and dictate the rules of the universe as we know it, your sky god/gods are no longer necessary in the equation.
Solution:
There has always been “something” – the universe. If there was a thing that lay outside the laws of physics that existed prior to time, like your sky god/gods, then she/he/it/they/spaghetti can’t be proven by science.
Unable to be proven by science = no observable effects.
Does anyone know what the only thing in science that has no observable effects is? That’s right!
Nothing.
(P.S. – So I’m doing a Google image search for “god”…)
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23 March 2006, on 8:43 pm
Rockstar, you bastard! Are you back, or is this the only time we’re gonna see you for the next two months?
By the way, when I saw your headline in my RSS feed, I knew it was you before I even clicked on it.
23 March 2006, on 10:50 pm
Who the fuck is this “Rockstar” guy, and how the hell did he get permission to post on our blog?
24 March 2006, on 12:59 am
Hahaha!
24 March 2006, on 1:14 am
I think this “Rockstar” is a pseudonym for Wally.
24 March 2006, on 1:29 am
Okay, KR, now Rockstar needs a good ribbing for getting his ass fired and disappearing on us for months, but nobody deserves comparison to fuckin’ Wally.
24 March 2006, on 1:32 am
True dat, yo.
24 March 2006, on 2:03 am
Isn’t it great how one classic ignat troll can live on in our memories so? He should feel flattered.
Wonder how life is these days in Wally World. I bet there ain’t many girls around!
24 March 2006, on 5:27 am
If everything (as the xians say) has to be a creation of something else (they claim as a chair is made by a human, a human is made by god, who made god? and who made the one/thing who made god?….
If god/s could exist without being created by someone else, then why the hell could not the universe?
24 March 2006, on 7:06 am
“I think this “Rockstar” is a pseudonym for Wally. ”
*LOL* KR rules.
Welcome back Ryan. If indeed you are back. And if you are, give me a second – I need to throw some articles of clothing onto the stage.
24 March 2006, on 9:53 am
“Wonder how life is these days in Wally World. I bet there ain’t many girls around!”
Now he wouldn’t want to be vaginized, would he?
24 March 2006, on 11:32 am
Will you be “sticking around,” Rockstar?
Some very interesting things have been going on here since you’ve been gone.
24 March 2006, on 12:25 pm
I did a slightly more formal version of this argument a while back. It, too, debated the first premise of the cosmological argument. If you are interested, it’s here.
24 March 2006, on 7:21 pm
Will you be “sticking around,” Rockstar?
I shall do my best. Here in Nebraska we just got teh internets about a year ago, so I had to find a friend who had one. I must’ve missed the Wally thing…I’m sure he/she/it is a moron though…
Roya:
First, hi, I’m Ryan. Nice to meetcha.
If god/s could exist without being created by someone else
They were created by someone else
24 March 2006, on 7:51 pm
Ryan, muh man. That’s good news. We missed you. Check out the recent Lion Feed fight with Triablogue (okay, so it was my post, but it was awesome how everyone rose to the occasion).
And Lya became a mini-celebrity when she posted this. It was linked to from all over the webernets.
25 March 2006, on 6:04 am
Hi Ryan
“If god/s could exist without being created by someone else”
I ment as christians believe….
25 March 2006, on 7:09 pm
Notwithstanding the whole point of this website, which I choose not to participate in either side, time and space are not constant. Mr. Hawking has gone a long way toward proving this, as Einstein started. Thus the theory of the constantly expanding universe. Check the latest on this.
27 March 2006, on 12:47 pm
In physics 101 they told me that time and space are NOT constants and that the only known real constand is the speed of light in a vacum (C)
28 March 2006, on 8:58 pm
Please ask your professor/Stephen Hawking to point out where time existed and space did not and vice versa. That’s the moral of the story.