Problem is, Hank, we’re “equal” but not “alike;” both parties do not get pregnant, only the female does. This means that biologically, whether any of us likes it or not, *she* gets the last word in deciding what to do about her pregnancy for the simple reason that it’s taking place inside *her body,* not his.

Which means that they both have to live with *her* final decision in one way or another. Heck, even if she’s the one who wants to have the child and wins her court case forcing her partner to provide child support, and he decides that it’s “unfair” and runs away to another country to avoid the legal consequences, neither one can escape the fact that they had a child together – and it was *her* decision to bring it into the world.

And even in this scenario, he gets the longer end of the stick: he gets to run away. Quite frankly, I’m surprised more women in this situation don’t follow his example and simply walk out on their kids, although unfortunately it happens. I think it’s a credit to our gender that even without planning it or any outside support, so many women shoulder the burden of single motherhood and just keep on truckin’ any way they can.

Is it unfair that he gets no say AFTER she’s pregnant? Maybe, but there were plenty of ways to avoid knocking her up. Is this the same argument used against women’s reproductive rights? Yep. It sounds very logical. If a woman can chose whether or not to have a kid, shouldn’t (poor, oppressed and abused *snort, chuckle, guffaw*) men be able to chose whether or not they will participate if she choses to have it?

However, sane people agree that an abortion is not child neglect. There is no child. This is not remotely the same choice as a man has deciding that keeping his money is more important then a human being he helped create. If that child lived with this man and he provided nothing that would be child neglect, for which he would be jailed. But suddenly, all responsibility is erased if it doesn’t? Sounds flaccid and flimsy to me.

All that aside, even if this is the one area where men are (finally) not in total control, all I have to say is – welcome to our world. Not fun, is it.

Just kidding. Hope you lead a healthy life, young man!

Damn straight! Of course, I wanna be like that! Kudos to you ladies and Sean! More power to ya!

I’m looking forward to getting old myself — just because of this. Be REAL nice to speak my mind when I wanna.

Funny story: My father-in-law was asked to go to a communion. His reply: MY GOD WHATEVER FOR?! The rejoinder: Well, we wanted him to get the values and make up his mind up later. His reply: BUT THAT’S NOT WHAT YOU’RE DOING. YOU’RE INDOCTRINATING HIM NOW AND HE’S GONNA HAVE TO FIGHT HIS WAY OUT LATER.

Nice. Fuckin’-A bubba. You go get ‘em.

You should be able to get the pic of Paul from his own Blogger profile. Although their blog is down for some reason (Someone, I wouldn’t be surprised, probably reported them to Hatewatch and Blogger is doing some investigating).

That tangerine looks radioactive!!!! I like the look of shock on the guy’s face- heh!

A couple agrees not to have children. They mutually decide on a birth control method. They also agree that if she gets pregnant she will have an abortion. She gets pregnant (it happens). One of the parties changes their mind and wants to have the baby. The other says “No way. We agreed not to have children”.

Should one party be able to force motherhood/fatherhood and all its obligations on the other party against her/his wishes?