Wow. I think if I were religious, I would be offended by that article. Belief is God is only about fear of Hell. I know an awful lot of religious people who don’t seem to think that. Wait, how does that explain why Hindu or Buddhist men are less likely to be religious? Hell doesn’t exactly play a large role there.

But the best quote would have to be: “Not being religious is similar to any other shortsighted, risky and impulsive behavior that some men — primarily young males – - engage in, such as assault, robbery, burglary, murder and rape.”

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Sorry, just had to post this…

From a student…

Bob, thanks for tonight’s class, it was extremely enlightening. There’s so much I don’t know! Materialism makes much more sense to me than dualism. Besides, who cares if one has a soul or not, it’s not like we can ever see it, just like freakin God. Science has explained a great deal of things and is continuing to do so. So basically, thanks to you, and I mean this in a good way, I don’t believe in God anymore and now I know we don’t have a soul either.

Just [*snif*] brings a tear, doesn’t it…

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Sorry for the down time. The server running the zubrock.net domain was down. Hopefully, all’s well again. Maybe God struck them down? Anyway, back to the bashing.

On Sinkford: Yeah, I can’t really believe the UU’s would go for this. But it’s another dangerous symptom of the growing tendency toward god-centric social/political discourse that this shit could even get put on the table.

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Hi guys,

A long reply, but here goes…

There’s a link to what Sinkford said in more detail: Sinkford speech. I have to say that this speech completely sucks ass and I totally disagree with the sentiment expressed in it.

Atheists and humanists make up around 40% of the membership of the Unitarian Universalist Association, and I would say that the proposal that we add a new principle recognizing God hasn’t got a snowball’s chance in hell of passing at a General Assembly of the UUA.

Just for background, the UUA has no doctrine and no set of beliefs that are binding on any member. However, we have something called the “Principles and Purposes of the Unitarian Universalist Association”, which states a number of issues on which there is broad consensus among different UUs. Here’s a link to the statement of the Principles and Purposes . As you can see at that site, there is also a statement called the “Sources” statement, which mentions the historical sources of Unitarian Universalism. God gets mentioned there, but in a semantically intensional context:

The living tradition which we share draws from many sources:
…
Jewish and Christian teachings which call us to respond to God’s love by loving our neighbors as ourselves.

Since “God” appears in the complement of “call us to”, an atheist can assent to this formulation without assenting to the existence of God. A parallel statement is

“I have several ancestors
…
My mother, who taught us to respect unicorns.”
(from this you can’t conclude that the speaker believes unicorns exist.)

It’s true that Unitarian Universalism has X-ian roots historically, and it’s true that X-ianity teaches about God’s love. So this part has never bothered me particularly.

Of course, the reason it is there was to pacify theists within the denomination. But if you choose to be a UU, then you’re saying that your agreement with other people about human rights, respect for the environment, social justice, peace, etc. is more important than your disagreement with them about the existence of God. That’s probably an area where we would disagree.

Sinkford’s speech is in my view a dangerous one; it threatens to unbalance the “peace accord” that exists between theists and non-theists in the denomination. He is completely free to make his elevator speech about God as his own opinion, but a large majority of us won’t stand for turning that speech into any statement for the UUA as a whole.

Hey, this sucks: The Unitarians, one of the few relative bright spots in the religious landscape of the US, are now being led by a guy who wants to insert “God” into the new statement of principles for the organization. William Sinkford, president of the UU’s since 2001, says that leaving God out “reduces the document’s effectiveness in comforting people and also puts the denomination out on the fringe of religious life in America.” “We have lost the ability to speak of what is sacred and holy to us,” and he believes that adding “God” to the denomination’s principles would help attract members and would also increase the denomination’s influence in world affairs.”These are troubled times, and we need to reclaim our goals and values… We need to be able to say Unitarian Universalists believe there is one God, and that God is a loving God who would condemn no one out of hand.” Aaron, you listening? What’s up with this shit?

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…they gotta be reminded that we’re here, and we know they’re full of shit.

Hey, ya know, I just might say this…
And yes, if it’s an interfaith dialogue, then I’d assume the desserts are blessed as well…